Most moral army btw
Not that I don’t believe what’s being said here, but can anybody who speaks Hebrew confirm the subtitles are accurate translations?
Israelis laughingly describing how they raped underage girls and mass executed Palestinians in cages during the Nakba
Submitted 7 months ago by Linkerbaan@lemmy.world to videos@lemmy.world
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mycodesucks@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 7 months ago
This is from the Tantura documentary, about the 1948 massacre of the Palestinian village Tantura. Highly recommend giving it a watch. It’s absolutely chilling.
I don’t speak Hebrew, but saw this documentary, it’s made by Israelis. The quote is correct. The whole documentary is filled with dudes like this “oh yeah, I’m a murderer, but my wife doesn’t know, it happened, what am I going to do about that hahaha”; beyond disgusting.
solo@kbin.run 7 months ago
Is it this one you're talking about? Tantura (2022) - Internet Archive
mycodesucks@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I think with the original source being verified, that’s good enough to check. Thanks for identifying it. Much appreciated.
solo@kbin.run 7 months ago
can anybody who speaks Hebrew confirm the subtitles are accurate
I doubt you'll get an answer to this, unless they speak hebrew and are anti-zionist as well.
Axiochus@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Which is unthinkable, much like people speaking American English are necessarily fans of the military industrial complex.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 7 months ago
If you want to double check you can probably throw it through an AI transcriber.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
From reading more about the documentary, it sounds like some veterans explicitly said a massacre didn’t happen, but then again that’s one of those things where even one unforced admission to something that damning is pretty sus in itself.
tearsintherain@leminal.space 7 months ago
This was May 2023. US skips UN Nakba event marking dispossession of Palestinians after Israeli campaign
(CNN) The United States and Western nations including the United Kingdom and Germany on Monday skipped an event at the United Nations marking the 75th anniversary of the dispossession of Palestinians after Israel called for a boycott.
The event, the first of its kind to be held by the UN, commemorated the Nakba or “catastrophe” – when roughly 700,000 Palestinians fled or were expelled from their homes in what is now Israel. The commemoration was boycotted by Israeli officials, who also urged diplomats of other nations not to participate.
On Sunday, Israel’s ambassador to the UN, Gilad Erdan, sent a letter to other UN ambassadors “deeply urging” them not to take part in what he called a “shameful Nakba event,” according to a copy of the letter obtained by CNN. Erdan said “Such events only serve to demonize Israel and further push away any chance for reconciliation.”
Jollyllama@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’m fluent in Hebrew. The translations are accurate. The only thing that stands out is he says the monster with the submachine gun “swapped/magazines”, as is he emptied one and swapped to a new one. The laughing imo is coping/senility. I’ve known lots of old Israelis like this guy and lots are terribly racist, I do believe that the army is more organized than it was during Nakba. Whether that means they are better at hiding atrocities or preventing the…idk. Growing up in Israel we were told we had the most moral army in the world. They brainwash you in the IDF (like most militaries), with the goal of making the 18 year old draftees okay with their role in war. I am certain that in the coming decades there will be more of these tell all type videos from gen z Israelis coming to terms with their actions.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Yeah, the smiling seems more like desensitization. He doesn’t seem to promote, excuse or justify the crimes. He knows they were horrific.
War is hell. None are moral. The difference is that some are completely unjustifiable (e.g. aggression or imperialism vs self-defence). Human rights abuses, rape, murder, torture, and psychopathy are present in every single warzone in history, and committed by both sides; though the volume of crimes can be extremely lopsided.
Mango@lemmy.world 7 months ago
So where’s our anti pedophile army?
tearsintherain@leminal.space 7 months ago
When a military brands itself “the most humane” military like the IDF has. That already should be a clue as to the marketing and propaganda they’ve built up for decades.
VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’ve just started reading starship troopers and very true.
MxM111@kbin.social 7 months ago
This is from the Tantura documentary, about the 1948 massacre of the Palestinian village Tantura. I do not think IDF existed back then.
NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 7 months ago
It did. The IDF was made from Jewish paramilitaries like Haganah and Irgun that existed way before 1948, and were made into/declared a formal army in May 1948.
tearsintherain@leminal.space 7 months ago
Yes, but are we to believe the IDF is angelic? Considering the dehumanization of Palestinians seems to be so commonplace. If you have to declare you are the most humane, something is amiss. ‘We’re Rolling Out Nakba 2023,’ Israeli Minister Says on Northern Gaza Strip Evacuation
The Nakba (Arabic: النكبة an-Nakbah, lit. ‘The Catastrophe’) was the ethnic cleansing[2] of Palestinians in Mandatory Palestine during the 1948 Palestine war through their violent displacement and dispossession of land, property, and belongings, along with the destruction of their society, culture, identity, political rights, and national aspirations.[3] The term is also used to describe the ongoing persecution and displacement of Palestinians by Israel.[4] As a whole, it covers the shattering of Palestinian society and the long-running rejection of the right of return for Palestinian refugees and their descendants.