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• mean_bean279@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Your rights as a person and citizen don’t magically extend everywhere. Otherwise you turn into a sovereign citizen. This weird obsession on Lemmy with this idea you should be able to say whatever you want online anywhere is fucking stupid and weird. A website is like another business or home (or even a newspaper… which at times has also pulled ideas they don’t agree with). You’re showing up to it. If you don’t like the rules in one place, go to another (or read a different paper). Or make your own.

  Also, I love the irony of me making an unpopular opinion comment on a post about unpopular opinion.

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  • WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    What you miss is people aren’t arguing from a constitutional perspective. They’re saying that it’s fucking ridiculous that sites like reddit censor perfectly legal speech while also billing themselves as bastions of free speech.

    There is a certain logic to it. If you want to bill your site as a public square, then maybe you shouldn’t censor anything other than speech that is actually illegal. It is not illegal to say things in support of Luigi Mangione. In fact, it’s perfectly legal, and totally Constitutionally protected, for me to go right now and hold a big sign in front of NYPD headquarters saying, “Luigi Mangione is a saint, and I hope to see a hundred more like him!” The law restricts true threats, but those are defined way, way narrower than many on social media seem to think.

    People aren’t saying that reddit or other platforms can’t censor content on their platform, they obviously can. But you also shouldn’t bitch about people pointing out the rank hypocrisy of sites that bill themselves as public squares censoring content to serve their corporate overlords.

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    • mean_bean279@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I don’t disagree with some of your points, but I also don’t believe that Reddit really ever said it was a free speech platform. Twitter has for sure (because of Elon), but Reddit has really been a “front page of the internet” believer. They felt more like an aggregator and newspaper. Which definitely has a lot of censoring and opinion blocking in the world of print too. I mean, remember when they got rid of jailbait or space dicks, was that a speech problem? Some felt it was, but it was definitely something we all realized was wrong and that a private company tries to protect its “brand.” Obviously being on Lemmy and leaving after the API change means I didn’t agree with them and I found another place that aligned more with my values.

      You holding that sign up though is legal, however only on public property, and only if you’re taking up less than half of the sidewalk and not in the path of traffic. You also cannot use an amplified device (unless you’ve filled out the permit) and your sign cannot be on any wood or metal sticks. If you step onto private property you can be asked to leave or removed. That last one is also something that just like a website isn’t restricting your right to free speech, just that a specific building/business/owner doesn’t want to be in support of it.

      In the end, why are we all still talking about Reddit. This site definitely has users that love going back to their crazy ex to fuck and then realizing it’s still crazy like as if it would change.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    This weird obsession on Lemmy with this idea you should be able to say whatever you want online anywhere is fucking stupid and weird.

    I don’t think talking about current events in a shit posting sub rises to the level of “weird obsession”.

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    • mean_bean279@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      If we’re talking about the Unpopular opinion subreddit (what the image is from). They also had President, presidency, Trump, and spez. They’re just big things that end up with a lot of garbage. A sub about unpopular opinions filled with the same “Donald Trump bad” becomes boring and annoying.

      If we’re talking about the Lemmy Shitpost community then they specifically call out no derogatory language towards anyone’s Race, gender, or religion. Is that trampling your civil liberties?

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      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        They’re just big things that end up with a lot of garbage.

        The whole community is shitposts.

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