What does it mean to dismantle the system?
Comment on Wreck the economy because it only works for the billionaire class.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 year agoTanking the economy will only hurt the majority, billionaires literally won’t notice
You’re talking about another recession where they can scoop up assets on the cheap and weather the storm while less fortunate people die. We’re talking about dismantling the system that makes that possible.
duffman@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Asking for specifics, unable to grasp obvious concepts or being a sealion?
cheesemonk@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Why is so much online discourse like this?
Why not just give slightly more specific information on what a better system would look like?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Several reasons.
First of all, a lot of people argue in bad faith online and it’s not worth my time and effort to feed trolls, sealions and shills.
Second, the question without further context implies that only people who know exactly what to replace it with are allowed to advocate the end of a horrendously wrong system.
Second and a halfth, why are you talking me with being more specific when the question was far too vague to even know if that’s what they were asking for? Why demand specificity from me and not them?
Third, in this specific case I’m tired and thus have less energy left to spend on what might be another futile back and forth. If they’re not serious about discussing it in good faith, I’d much rather spend my remaining energy on something fun like Baldurs Gate 3 or something…
Nahvi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It is a lot easier to tear down the hard work of others than to build something up yourself.
The UAW is not some benevolent non-profit out to help the poor people of America. They are an organization that represents less than .05% of Americans in one of the best paid low-skill jobs in America, and they say they are willing to try and tank the economy for the benefit of their members at the cost of everyone else.
They are in no way going to dismantle the system that has made them wealthier than their friends and neighbors. They are just holding out for a bigger package with more benefits, and are willing to play Russian Roulette with the economy to get it.
Even if all three CEOs gave up their salaries and benefits packages to benefit the UAW workers they would each only gain about $1 an hour based on my napkin math.
This Fain guy’s rhetoric is nothing more than that and it makes him and the union sound like an asshole to a neutral observer. Not that there are any neutral observers in this post.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
How about if the three auto companies gave up 5% of their profits instead?
Nahvi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I have no idea what sort of profit margins the auto companies are working on. I do think profit sharing is a pretty decent idea though. I am surprised the UAW isn’t asking for something like that. Maybe it is too unstable for wage workers in case of a recession.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No, what matters is how much it would cost to pay their workers more, not what profit margin they’re making. And do you honestly think their profits are lower than what they can pay their workers?
burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Ahhh ok, so you really are talking out of your ass.
The workers are not asking for much. Just their fair share
meyotch@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
Fuck right off with the ‘low-skill’ shit.
Nahvi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Am I wrong? I was using it as a comparison to jobs that require a similar amount of education and training.
I tried to check and it seemed to be categorized as “unskilled”. Didn’t really seem like a completely fair assessment so I used “low-skill” instead.
What would you call jobs in this category?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
We’re done here, bootlicker.