Comment on Road casualties have become normal in Britain. But there is another way

• HeartyBeast@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  About 20 years ago, I was caught by a copper using a radar gun and was ticked off for speeding on my bicycle. I admit, I was just having fun. But yes it was dangerous.

  He was mainly tickled ar the idea of being able to charge someone with ‘cycling furiously’. He didn’t just told me off

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• SonnyVabitch@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Same guy, same publication a year prior found that not only do cyclist break the law for different reasons, they also do it less frequently than motorists.

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• C4d@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  From your link:

  “Beanland’s study concluded that “cycling experience is associated with more efficient attentional processing for road scenes.” She suggested that road safety would be improved for all if more motorists also cycled.

  I suspect they’re right.

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  • RecallMadness@lemmy.nz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A similar trope is tossed around in motorcycling communities.

    (Supposedly) Motorcyclists make better drivers, not only in themselves but also in their friends, family and neighbours by virtue of awareness “my neighbour Jim is a motorcyclist, I should look out for him when I’m driving”.

    Some groups are advocating that the CBT (basic motorcycle training) should be a requirement for new drivers to capitalise on this.

    Some level of mandatory other-road-user immersion requirement could be a good way a good way to boost safety.

    Fuck, driver licensing is too relaxed anyway, bring in mandatory retesting and increase the skill requirements gradually. Literally force the shit drivers out of their cars. You do it for commercial/heavy vehicles why not personal.

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    • brewery@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think the car driving test now is actually quite good and can be difficult to pass but once you pass (potentially at 17) then that’s it. There’s no requirement to keep those skills up, learn about law changes, no further tests, just nothing. Accountants, doctors, lawyers, social workers etc are all required to keep up professional development annually and usually have to submit an annual declaration with a certain number audited. Driving a literal killing machine centimetres away from children needs nothing extra.

      My suggestion would be the government and insurance companies develop an optional extra certificate like the pass plus but something you do regularly, needs you to pass tests under new laws, and to prove safe driving somehow. You pay for but it gives a discount on insurance to make up for it. I would go for this. I am hesitant about having a tracker on the car even though I drive very safely.

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    • C4d@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I believe the secret sauce is empathy.

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      • brewery@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s a huge part. A lot of people just can’t put themselves in others shoes unfortunately

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  • Pons_Aelius@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I lived in the Netherlands for a few years. One of the main reason I believe it is such a safe place to cycle is that basically every motorist is also a cyclist.

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  • SonnyVabitch@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Or they could at least make cycling awareness part of driver’s training. youtube.com/watch?v=4SgtlwTGAz8

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