Comment on Johnson signals 'plan C' reached to avert shutdown

• Sirpantangelini@noauthority.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  @realcaseyrollins why do you want a bullshit pork roll?

  What does the federal government do that you want to keep around?

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  • realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    National defense

    Fight federal crimes

    Collect taxes

    Legislate

    Negotiate with foreign governments

    Set economic policies

    There’s a lot the federal government does that it needs to continue doing! I feel like the “just shut it all down” people fall into the categories of:

    1. Enjoying chaos/wanting to watch the world burn

    2. Disgruntled libertarians who are mad that the government is too big (they’re right BTW)

    3. Trump shills

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    • chromeratt@noauthority.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      @realcaseyrollins @Sirpantangelini they can stay out of economic policy as far as I'm concerned.

      Also, there are far too many federal crimes.

      And our international policy for several administrations has been "give us your shit or we'll bomb you into the ground and take it ". Let's have less of that please.

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      • Sirpantangelini@noauthority.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        @chromeratt @realcaseyrollins

        My responses just got eaten by the internet.

        I'm all for a fair tax federally.
        Solely tariffs and a flat tax on new products.

        If a heroin addict is forced to be clean for 6 months because they are on an island with no heroin, that's ultimately good for them, even if they go back.

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      • realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Oh good grief. SMH. Changing policy is not the same as ragequitting governing!

        None of these issues are solved by shutting down the government, they will only be fixed by new reforms and new legislation, AFTER the government is up and running again.

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    • Sirpantangelini@noauthority.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      @realcaseyrollins

      National defense, tell me about those drones

      Fight federal crimes, yes, fund the fbi.....

      Collect taxes. Disband the irs and end the income tax please

      Legislate. What, legislative what, this is a retard answer

      Negotiate with foreign governments. Ohh yes, to pay for drinking club dates that end in bombing kids, great, love it

      Set economic policies.
      MORE INFLATION.

      These are such great reasons.

      Try again.

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      • Sirpantangelini@noauthority.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        @realcaseyrollins

        You could've at least made me sound like a monster by saying benefits for losers.
        And then I could say let them learn to swim or drown.

        If I were mike Johnson, I'd be playing extreme hardball.
        I'd start the negotiations at 6 months of government shutdown unless they agree to single bills.

        And then just shut it down until they cave.

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      • realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        National defense, tell me about those drones

        How is defunding the federal government supposed to help us stop the drones again?

        Fight federal crimes, yes, fund the fbi…

        While the FBI is corrupt, they do also fight and stop legitimate crimes and criminals.

        Disband the irs and end the income tax please

        I want to replace the income tax with a national sales tax on digital purchases, personally, but that necessitates an IRL to collect that money still.

        legislate what

        Laws, mostly

        Negotiate with foreign governments. Ohh yes, to pay for drinking club dates that end in bombing kids, great, love it

        Again, how is defunding the government supposed to make any of that better?

        Set economic policies. MORE INFLATION.

        Or less, depending on what the federal government chooses to do with that power. In any case, will shutting down the government stop inflation?

        See this is what I’m talking about. Almost none of what you’re upset about is actually improved by a government shutdown. At best, it’s just paused, and will pick back up again once the government funding resumes.

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