We already agreed that market rate is too high. What I’m trying to convince you of is that there exists a non-zero positive value that is reasonable to charge someone as rent. It sounds like you understand now how that number comes about and why it isn’t zero, right? How to ensure that the deal is fair is a whole other matter. The point is that such a deal exists.
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
And I’ve already told you I don’t agree. Paying a non-zero amount of rent is always parasitic.
howrar@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
I wouldn’t be trying to convince you of it if you agreed, would I?
What’s this business about itemized bills to make them fair if the bills are zero?
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Landlords don’t do that. Until they do, they’re parasites.
Also, I can’t tell if you’ve realized by now, but everything I’ve been describing as ways to make landlording “fair” is just a roundabout description of ownership.
howrar@lemmy.ca 13 hours ago
We’re not talking about what they currently do though. The question is what they should do in order to be fair and non-parasitic. Where the threshold lies between parasitic and non-parasitic.
So far, I understand that you’re convinced ownership is necessary if any payment is involved. What I don’t understand is why*. We agreed that people should be paid for their labour. What makes home rentals special in that regard?