Comment on Hey is Sharing Luigi’s Manifesto on Social Media Actually "Glorifying Violence"? Because Reddit Said So 😭

• GaMEChld@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I understand what you’re saying. The answer is yes, we choose when violence is justified.

  Lemmy doesn’t do well with nuanced discussion. The communication dilemma present is the lack of the bridge between where one party in the discussion wants to continue narrowing the parameters of discussion until we are left with a binary choice (the quantum side of discussion) and the other party wants to keep the discussion broad and cognizant of all the variables (the general relativity side of discussion).

  Both sides have valid reasons for existing. Usually you do have to narrow parameters in order to actually come up with a solution or action to implement. Similarly to how in a valid experiment you attempt to control all variables except what you’re testing. But you also have to be aware of all the variables in the first place to adequately control them.

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  • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And from what I’ve seen, narrowing it to glorifying violence is nothing more than an attempt to terminate the discussion altogether.

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    • GaMEChld@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Yeah, that may be true. Some people have their minds made up and they somehow think any further discussion is somehow a weakening of their position or something like that.

      I like to think that any fear of discussion simply means you’re afraid your reasons aren’t sound and you don’t want to question the reality that you may be acting on emotions rather than reason. I think you can definitely have this discussion rationally and still end up supporting what happened.

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      • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Oh I know you can have this conversation rationally and come out supporting the shooter.

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• nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That was a serious question. If things are okay just because we like them and not okay just because we don’t then what kind of morals are acting on? Yeah it came because I was frustrated that people can’t seem to get off trying to evade the idea of glorification. But it’s still serious, if your knee jerk reaction is to say it’s not a glorification because it’s justified then you run a real risk that vigilantism is only part of. Authoritarian states work the same way.

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    • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If things are okay just because we like them and not okay just because we don’t

      That’s not the situation, nor what anyone is asserting. Who are you talking to?

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      • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I see that all over this thread and this issue.

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