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• gofsckyourself@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You’re jumping the gun and assuming a lot.

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  • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I couldn’t get past the 4th example of “non-violence” without laughing at how wildly revisionist they are. While each of these had non-violent components, none of them would have succeeded without violence. The housing rights act wasn’t passed until literally every city was on fire.

    Here’s a great book detailing the experiences that lead civil rights leaders to understand as much..

    The British gave up their occupation of India after a decades-long nonviolent struggle by the Indian population led by Mohandas Gandhi. The Danes, Norwegians and other peoples in Europe used civil resistance against Nazi invasion during World War II, raising the costs to Germany of its occupation of these nations, helping to strengthen the spirit and cohesion of their people, and saving the lives of thousands of Jews in Berlin to Copenhagen to Paris and elsewhere. Labor movements around the world have consistently used tactics of civil resistance to win concessions for workers throughout the twentieth and twenty-first centuries. African Americans used civil resistance in their struggle to dissolve segregation in the United States in the 1950s and 1960s.

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    • Bgugi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Civil resistance against Nazi invasion

      I’m sure the 2.7 million tonnes of bombs being dropped on them didn’t exactly tip that scale much…

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    • gofsckyourself@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I couldn’t get past the 4th example of “non-violence” without laughing at how wildly revisionist they are. While each of these had non-violent components, none of them would have succeeded without violence.

      I believe the violent aspects of these resistances are considered and included in the overall analysis in the book I linked.

      I think you may be jumping to conclusions when you see something that doesn’t immediately fall into your own views. Those examples are clearly a simplified and truncated set to quickly get the point across for the purpose of an “About Us” page while there is lots of in-depth information available throughout the site.

      If you have qualms with their findings or data, you’d be better off taking it up with them instead of me. I don’t purport to be an expert on this subject. I am only relaying that there is plenty of credible research, data, and analysis that shows that non-violent resistance is effective.

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  • Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Wait, are you using multiple accounts to support your argument? The OP comment is under a different username but you just responded to that person as if you made that initial content presenting the data.

    And reminder that Lemmy shows edit history.

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    • gofsckyourself@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Are you talking about enkers’s comment? I saw their response, which was clearly meant for me and responded. Then they deleted that comment and moved it to where they intended to put it, so I did the same.

      sh.itjust.works/comment/15571731

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      • Enkers@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yeah, sorry 'bout that; that was my bad. I didn’t mention it since you figured out my intent. Looks like me moving my comment might have led to some confused bystanders, though.

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      • Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        No, the op consent presenting the data. The username just changed to match yours.

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