I agree that the bonfire mechanics and level design resemble dark souls, but the mechanics are nothing like dark souls to me. I’ve played all the games as well. Fallen order is 1:1 with those games, but closer to them than dark souls. Combat is very forgiving and cinematic. It was made to look like darksouls, but the combat didn’t come close. Maybe kingdom hearts combat would be a better comparison. Still easy to get fucked up if you don’t know what your doing, but once you get the hang of it you can just mow down everyone no problem
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LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days agoLmao no. I played all three insomniac Spider-Mans and all the Arkham games and fallen order is nothing like any of them, it is literally a dark souls reskin, from the level design to bonfires and progression to the combat and even little details like respawning enemies after a bonfire rest etc.
It’s a shame good games like jedi knight/academy and SWTFU didn’t get modwrn sequels and instead we get this slopfest.
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LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 5 days ago
I meant to say fallen order isn’t 1:1 my bad for the typo
syreus@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Every game you have mentioned enjoying involves a lot of hand holding. I get why you are not a fan of Fromsoft. You have a strong opinions but I assume it’s just because you are likely older and jaded like myself. Nobody under 30 has played Jedi Knight/Academy.
That being said all of those games are very different from one another. Sekiro is a completely different beast. The only thing tying them together is above average difficulty that can be (mostly) alleviated by grinding.
You have to face that we aren’t the target demographic anymore.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
Jedi academy and DMC4 has hand-holding? Delusional. They’re just good games. Souls games are shit games. Idgaf about forntire demographic they need to learn what games are good before they’re allowed opinions fr fr
syreus@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Sekiro is a much better game than both Jedi Academy and DMC4. It is in no way slow or boring. My opinion and also the opinion of the majority of reviewers.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
Yeah but that doesn’t make your opinion valid, all those souls series are very very slow, you die, you go way back to some location from an hour ago and slog through the same generic again, and it just gets more boring each time, especially when the locations don’t stand out from any other generic fantasy place.
It’s extremely punishing and discourages free player experimentation and creativity and fun with the mechanics and encourages reading the wiki to cheese a boss so you don’t have to do it again or going somewhere else to level a stat like some lame ass MMO or ass creed, which makes it all tedious and boring.
Compare that to a fast game like Doom (original), you die, there’s that wipe effect and you’re going a mile a minute, less than a minute and you’re right back in the action to give it another shot with a new tactic or strategy.
DMC4 didn’t have the best level design either, precisely because there was too much of it, and DMC5 went in the right direction and made everything a corridor of monsters so you can get right to the combat and quickly, because that’s the fun.
Souls combat can be fun too when you’re really in there rolling about the place with some huge dragon or some shit but to actually fucking get to it isn’t worth the time investment of navigating some bullshit maze over and over.
All the aforementioned games can be pretty dang hard, Doom on UV or DMC5 on DMD are both tougher than most Souls encounters, but they are fun and encourage you to try harder and souls isn’t.