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LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days agoSee my comment above, there are 10 souls games and only one of them was any good and it was just mid jank at best but at least it had Soul™
They’re not unique and are the standard for action games with the likes of jedi fallen order and jedi fallen 2 order or whatever ripping the formula off.
Idk I think it’s exactly like FIFA and madden in terms of actual artistic value, but I wouldn’t compare it to COD because they at least have some pretty standout evolutions now and again, these souls games, new zelda games and new mario games etc are all designed by committee.
I’m just bitter that games that actually evolved action across the spectrum be it the high complexity and style of DMC4 and 5, Bayonetta series, the fun mechanics of MGR:R or even the speed of something like Warframe didn’t catch on nearly as much as the slow paced slog where you navigate boring generic fantasy environments where you fight some poorly animated big guy once in a while for the umpteenth time.
Even worse, these games are labeled as RPGs, which yeah they’re really no Fallout or Mass Effect, JRPG maybe, but it’s led to more and more shoving of RPG elements into what should be normal action games. It’s all so tiresome.
No accounting for taste amongst gamers, though.
DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 6 days ago
Jedi fallen order is not souls like at all. People saw the “bonfire/leveling system” and proclaimed it as being soulslike. The gameplay is more akin to the Spiderman or Arkham Knight games
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 days ago
What? Fallen Order is much closer to Dark Souls than it is Spiderman or Arkham. It’s all slow, methodical combat encounters instead of flashy combo beat 'em up mechanics.
DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 6 days ago
That wasn’t my experience with fallen order at all lol. I could mostly rush into any group of enemies because enemy attacks were predictable and very easy to dodge. The iframes felt more like the combo beat em up games and enemies generally attacked in turns unless they were all shooting then all you had to do then was hold the block button. On second thought I’d say it was maybe closer to kingdomhearts combat
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
Ok slop hoover
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
Lmao no. I played all three insomniac Spider-Mans and all the Arkham games and fallen order is nothing like any of them, it is literally a dark souls reskin, from the level design to bonfires and progression to the combat and even little details like respawning enemies after a bonfire rest etc.
It’s a shame good games like jedi knight/academy and SWTFU didn’t get modwrn sequels and instead we get this slopfest.
syreus@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Every game you have mentioned enjoying involves a lot of hand holding. I get why you are not a fan of Fromsoft. You have a strong opinions but I assume it’s just because you are likely older and jaded like myself. Nobody under 30 has played Jedi Knight/Academy.
That being said all of those games are very different from one another. Sekiro is a completely different beast. The only thing tying them together is above average difficulty that can be (mostly) alleviated by grinding.
You have to face that we aren’t the target demographic anymore.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
Jedi academy and DMC4 has hand-holding? Delusional. They’re just good games. Souls games are shit games. Idgaf about forntire demographic they need to learn what games are good before they’re allowed opinions fr fr
DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 6 days ago
I agree that the bonfire mechanics and level design resemble dark souls, but the mechanics are nothing like dark souls to me. I’ve played all the games as well. Fallen order is 1:1 with those games, but closer to them than dark souls. Combat is very forgiving and cinematic. It was made to look like darksouls, but the combat didn’t come close. Maybe kingdom hearts combat would be a better comparison. Still easy to get fucked up if you don’t know what your doing, but once you get the hang of it you can just mow down everyone no problem
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
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