Comment on Blacksky Is Nothing Like Black Twitter—and It Doesn’t Need to Be

• OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I mean the fundamental problem is that humans are dicks and moderation is always needed. It should also be paid, and supported with counciling and recovery time when needed. Dealing with toxic content is a job.

  Federation isn’t very good at this. The tech is great but everyone is a volunteer and there’s (afaik) no global ban hammer so trolls move from one instance to another. Bluesky currently has venture capital to pay for moderation teams, and centralized ban options.

  I don’t know how long this can last without advertising revenue though.

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  • SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Though I’m not human, I’ve been part of many unpaid moderation teams and I agree. It should be paid and with breaks etc.

    Something which not afforded us when we tried to ask or push for it many times sadly and so it goes on federated networks, people can only get paid if those using the service pay them and many don’t, won’t or can’t.

    Thankfully the instances we are on people do support the mods, from what we are aware, but still, a lot more could be done if people could do these thinfs, fairly though not everyone can due to being poor, but some do help out.

    We don’t agree with your assertion that humans (and probably others) are inherently dicks, but they can certainly display horrible behaviour, yeah.

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• SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I mean, it is a systemic problem in that society is racist, social media reflects that. It could be the one to change that in part if people cared enough to fix things both online and off. But they don’t, they’re so dedicated to upholding the structures of white supremacy and remaining willfully ignorant that they end up caring just about themselves.

  Having said that, whilst Bluesky may or may not care about moderation on a global level (I’ve heard mixed things), I think this kind of community building and user level block lists is a good thing, so it may work out for now.

  Like all commercial ventures into anything online I do expect it’ll become enshitified eventually, but for now may it long continue and hopefully drive the devs, moderators and actual users of the fediverse to care and introduce better moderation features or actually care about doing it and stopping the many white supremacists etc on the network through various means.

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  • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Thanks for the info. I was not aware that Bluesky had public, shareable block lists. That is indeed a great feature.

    For anyone else like me who was not aware, I found this site with an index of a lot of public block lists: blueskydirectory.com/lists . I was not able to load some of them, but others did load successfully. Maybe some were deleted or are not public? I’m not sure.

    I’ve never been heavily invested in microblogging, so my first-hand experience is limited and mostly academic. I have accounts on Mastodon and Bluesky, though. I would not have realized this feature was available in Bluesky if you hadn’t mentioned it and I didn’t find that index site in a web search. It doesn’t seem easily discoverable within Bluesky’s own UI.

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