Comment on When leftists say "landlord are parasites" or similar dislike of landlords, do they also mean the people that own like a couple of houses as an investment, or only the big landlords?

• Brainsploosh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Profit, price pressures, inflation are not necessarily meaningful terms in a different system.

  What exactly do you mean by that?

  In a circular or planned economy, those aren’t really significant measures, neither in a subsistence living context. Which are strategies that have housed all of humanity until the last few hundred years.

  In a post-capitalist economy, we might be able to provide the human necessities without exploitation. I don’t know how, but I know it’s not through more capitalism.

  Homes have been built for many thousands of years longer than we’ve had those as concepts.

  If you include cedar bark as a major construction material then sure. Not knocking cedar bark here - it’s great. But not quite the same investment in time or durability.

  As mentioned in the last reply, the Palace of Knossos, as well as the Petra were marvels of craftsmanship and engineering, staggering investments, and have stood for over 2000 years. Would probably have survived longer if maintained properly.

  The pyramids, the Mausoleum of Halicarnassos, the Taj Mahal, all are landmark (literally) feats for the contemporary technology and societies.

  You comparing them with modern construction methods necessitated by capitalism, and with modern technology seems an unfair comparison, as well as circular reasoning.

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  • enbyecho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    In a circular or planned economy, those aren’t really significant measures,

    Ok, sure - you just said “different” and did not specify.

    As mentioned in the last reply, the Palace of Knossos, as well as the Petra were marvels of craftsmanship and engineering, staggering investments,

    That involved massive exploitation and slave labor. And let’s not forget significant taxation, looting, etc.

    You comparing them with modern construction methods necessitated by capitalism

    I’m comparing them because I’m making the point that profit, price pressures and inflation obviously arise when private entities make huge capital investments.

    So now that you’ve actually specified “different” as meaning non-capitalist systems, it leads me to wonder if you thought King Minos sought out volunteers… or did he pay everyone fairly? Are you really using “public” works built under autocratic rule as positive examples we can replicate?

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    • Brainsploosh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I’ve already covered this earlier in the thread

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      • enbyecho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Ah, I see. You really just want to hear yourself talk and are too intellectually lazy to engage with anyone else’s ideas.

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