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Nima@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

its not the request, its the entitlement that the letter displays.

they did not create this game. they are not entitled to demand and petition for such things. stuff being updated and breaking mods is annoying, but it happens.

modders do not own the game they mod for. nor are they entitled to be included in development updates just because they’re annoyed that they need to fix issues that may arise as a result of a game being patched by those who made it.

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takeda@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Sure, but it’s that wrong to asking for something? The studio can always ignore such request.

Many games welcome mods, because those can increase interest in the game or provide new ideas.

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- Nima@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  asking for something is completely reasonable. but behaving like you’re entitled to that and trying to divide the community seems to me to be a bit of a dick move.
  
  mods are just that. mods. they modify the original work with their own additions. just because someone mods something, does not mean they’re in the position to behave in such a manner.
  
  i was very put off by the wording in that open letter and I was not the only one. the community it was originally posted in also picked up on the antagonistic way it was written.
  
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mindbleach@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Demand and petition are opposite, genius.

Don’t treat customers as if anything short groveling for crumbs is acting above their station. People who adore this product got together on their own time to hash out why, specifically, they feel dissatisfied. They collaboratively presented a single document explaining what could go better and why it’s important. And you’re treating that like it’s some 90s edgelord with an I HATE BG3 page on GeoCities because they didn’t add any of the cool story ideas he e-mailed them.

What exactly is negative about people saying, ‘We’re excited to sink a shitload of time into adding stuff to this game for free, please do more technical communication?’

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Maetani@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I don’t see what you find cringy or entitled from this open letter, they explain the problems they encounter while working on mods and explain how Larian can help with that. This is the best way to handle such a request as a group.

And no, they aren’t entitled to their demands, but that doesn’t mean that those demands aren’t admissible. While they do not own the game itself, they do contribute to it’s success and the studio will benefit from helping them.

Also, it seems like you view modding as just some small tweaks for the fun of it (which might be the case for bg3, but from the letter it doesn’t seem so), but some game mods can become fairly huge, both in work size and popularity. While I don’t know much about the bg3 scene, I remember quite a few minecraft modders who received death threats because they “took too long” to update their mods to the latest version. There’s a real pressure behind that work, you can’t just brush it off because “they don’t own the game”

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