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• 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  No, we know.

  What’s the best that should we take from the far right?

  It’s an ideological desert over there once you look past the race supremacy, inevitable oligarchy and people dying if they don’t spend enough of their time struggling to survive. It’s literally just psychopathic power grabbing when you really distill it down.

  If any of that sounds good to you, I’m not interested in the world you want.

  Support for centrism is either complete political ignorance, or looking at that desert and thinking “I think we need some of that shit over here”

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  • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nothing. And neither should we take anything from the far left. It’s the moderates that have good ideas.

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    • 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Okay, humour me then, I’m clearly the ignorant one here.

      Let’s pretend that this centre which pulls from both sides is completely uninfluenced by the extremes somehow.

      What’s good about the not-quite-so-right that’s unique compared against the far right then?

      What’s good about the not-quite-so-left that’s unique from the far left?

      Do these things marry up in a way that’s not entirely ideologically bankrupt in the dissonance required?

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      • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Some things I like from the left:

        • The general idea of changing things that are bad instead of sticking to traditions
        • Gay marriage and other rights
        • More efficient and affordable healthcare
        • Abortion (though ideally I’d find it fair if “paper abortion” was also a thing)
        • FOSS (though most people don’t have a strong opinion on that)

        Some things I like from the right:

        • General cautiousness about the negative effects of new policies (for example, schools catering to problematic students at the expense of the other students)
        • Trying to minimize unnecessary government intervention
        • Support of free speech (used to be a leftist thing, seems to depend on who is being censored more)
        • Cautiousness about illegal immigration
        • Banning of harmful addictive drugs

        And what I don’t like about either:

        • Takes on gender/race equality (left tries to achieve it but has a different idea of what equality looks like, right seems content with inequality)

        Based on these, I’d consider myself centrist or maybe a bit left-leaning, but the far left would consider me a Nazi and the far right would consider me a communist or something.

        Also note that I’m not from the USA and I see USA politics through the lens of what I know to work and not work in my country.

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