Excellent comment.
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sinceasdf@lemmy.world 3 weeks agoThis piqued my curiosity so I dug into it a bit on Wikipedia. Most worms are dumb as fuck, roundworms are about as dumb as they come with total neuron counts for a roundworm being comparable to a microscopic tartigrade (300 vs 200). Most of this is located in the head of the worm in a brain like structure though, so I’m betting the clones develop their brains independently with no information transfer. I doubt there’s a ton of learning/memory forming going on at all though, based on how simple worms are, so it’s probably functionally identical. I would be surprised if most worm species exhibit any kind of learned behaviors ever.
BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 3 weeks ago
Techbros will still claim that generative AI possesses less intelligence than the worms as an excuse to keep enslaving them.
Bezier@suppo.fi 3 weeks ago
The AI that tech bros sell is not alive and does not have “intelligence.”
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 3 weeks ago
Does it have more than a worm with only 300 neurons in its brain, or are you one of those crazy religious people who thinks meat is the only thing in the universe that can think because it’s magic or something?
Bezier@suppo.fi 3 weeks ago
Neither. Why are those the only two options? My answer is that I have spent a little bit of time looking into how these things actually work. It’s surface level only, but it should be enough. Are you one of those crazy people who thinks chatgpt is sentient?
I’m not saying that a “real” AI cannot be built ever, but I for sure am saying that these image generators and chatbots are not it. AI tools are just functions that have no thought. If they start building products with some kind of continuous brain simulations, I’ll seriously rethink my stance.
ilost7489@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Ai does not think. It predicts what word sounds right based on what we humans have written. It cannot make up thoughts or original concepts, synthesize info, etc. Being able to string sentences together based on probability is not necessarily intelligence or consciousness
VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Neither the worm, nor current LLMs, are sapient.
Also, I don’t really like most corporate LLM projects, but not because they enslave the LLMs. An LLMs ‘thought process’ doesn’t really happen while it isn’t being used, and only encompasses a relatively small context window. How could something that isn’t capable of existing outside it’s ‘enslavement’ be freed?
Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I can see why Techbros would want such gorgeous invertebrates as pets but as long as they have enough enrichment in their enclosure but I would hardly call keeping these primitive worms slavery. Any kind of exotic pet always raises questions of ethicality so I understand why you’d be concerned. Do you personally know some people in the tech industry that keep these? How big a terrarium do they need and what kinds of plants and substrate do they prefer?