Every single western country outside of America has hate speech laws without issue.
So does the US. Just not for ordinary people.
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masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 weeks agoCompletely and utterly false.
Every single western country outside of America has hate speech laws without issue.
A) they are not that open ended and subjective
B) the idea that laws can’t be open ended, subjective, or governed through intent and spirit of the law, is only the case in the dumbass American legal system that has been intentionally ruined by simple minded Republicans
remon@ani.social 3 weeks ago
masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Those would not be considered hate speech laws I other countries, just normal no-threatening laws. Hate Speech laws typically protect against inciting hatred or violence against an identifiable group, actually uttering threats is a different broader law.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Love the timing making it so easy to disprove your argument. Just look at the flood of European countries abusing broad and ambiguous hate speech laws to crush dissent and crack down on criticism of Israel.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
You’re talking about the one instance of Germany ruling that a single controversial slogan was hate speech?
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
These are mostly incidents of people publicly expressing support for Hamas, and being arrested for expressing support for a designated terrorist organization, and pretty much all confined to the UK, which has some of the weakest individual protections in the EU / western world.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
You get crazy things in other countries though, like truth not being a defense for libel\slander.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
In which countries is that the case?
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
UK is the notable one.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
The UK is the weird outlier but there is still a defense of truth in the UK. The difference is that the person accusing you of defamation doesn’t have to prove that you’re wrong and you do have to prove that you’re right.