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Second highest voter turnout in the US. A difference of only 2,624,285 as per University of Florida estimates so far (the number is likely to go down).

This excuse is getting old. One, you are assuming people who did not vote would vote dems. Two, you are pushing blame to the voters who did not show up (and based on the lack of choice it is wild so many showed up) Three, by pushing that blame on to voters you are almost asking for this to happen again. (By letting the dems keep being crap, pissing off voters, and getting people angry at their neighbours helps the republicans)

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hydrospanner@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
First, an explanation isn’t an excuse. It’s a reason. It doesn’t make it okay, it doesn’t place or shift blame, it just correctly points something out.

In this case, Trump broadly received the same number of votes as he did 4 years ago, while the Democrats got millions fewer.

There’s no assumption there, it’s just an observation.

It’s not pushing or assigning blame. Maybe they didn’t vote because they were lazy. Maybe they didn’t vote because they didn’t like Harris. Maybe they didn’t vote because they didn’t like the process by which she became the nominee. Maybe they didn’t vote because they’ve lost faith in the entire system.

Regardless of reason, and regardless of how any observer decides to interpret it or assign blame, the facts speak for themselves.

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- lorty@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Your explanation ignores the root cause of the issue. People stayed home because the Democrats and Kamala failed to motivate them to go.
  
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reliv3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Yes, we are comparing the numbers to the highest voter turn out (which was last election). Biden was able to move 6-7 million more people to vote than Kamala, whereas Trump got about the same as he got in 2020.

Voters have to take some responsibility here. Trump’s base are all being con’d because they are ignorant on how most of the world works beyond their own backyard. Its possible that this is partly true for the 6-7 million people who didn’t vote this election cycle.

The issue isn’t so much that they didn’t vote for Kamala, but rather they did not have the ability to recognize Trump as the con that he is. Me being of average intelligence feels like this should have been easy to decipher.

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- M0oP0o@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  Biden was able to move 6-7 million more people to vote than Kamala, whereas Trump got about the same as he got in 2020.
  
  Trump got more votes then Kamala, that is how elections work. There was not 6-7 million people not voting (2.6 million delta from 2020), but more people showed up for the orange man and this blaming non-voters is just lame.
  
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