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TheDankHold@kbin.social 9 months agoSo centrist that he supports DeSantis, has dinner with Greg Abbot, thinks Jan 6 was a false flag, and still claims Trump facing prosecution is evidence that the US is a banana republic despite the episode immediately before having the guest lay out in irrefutable detail the real crimes DJT is standing trial for.
If he isn’t right wing then the only other viable explanation is that he’s an empty bobble head that invites on as many conservatives voices to nod along with as they can.
Fredol@lemmy.world 9 months ago
TheDankHold@kbin.social 9 months ago
Notice how this person ignored all the listed reasons I gave to hyperfocus on something from 2016.
“But he said he’d vote Bernie” is a literal meme from how often that tired talking point has been thrown out.
If he held any true convictions that weren’t conservative he wouldn’t play defense for Jan 6th and pal around with reactionary ghouls like Abbot and DeSantis. He also wouldn’t be trying so hard to downplay the crimes of the Trump administration.
Oh and while we’re bringing up stuff, you missed his recent climate change denial rant on the PoP episode? Because despite your insistence otherwise I do follow JRE. It’s why I know how empty your counter argument is.
Fredol@lemmy.world 9 months ago
[deleted]TheDankHold@kbin.social 9 months ago
Big old rant that addresses nothing I’ve said and makes up different arguments to win. Not sure what you’re going for here.
You dance around the real facts that he has consistently downplayed the crimes of the Trump administration and argues that one of the biggest conservative propagandists, Tucker Carlson, had journalistic integrity. All this while constantly attacking democrats for any perceived misstep and obsessing over CNN. He’s given tons of airtime to Hunter Bidens laptop but seemingly can’t tell you a single thing Trump was charged with.
You also pretend that I’ve said anything about “silencing” anyone so you can clutch your pearls and act persecuted but that’s not what I’d happening. I’m not censoring or advocating censorship. I’m using real world examples of someone’s public behavior to understand them better.
The grandest irony is you calling me a reactionary when all I did was point out examples of Joe espousing reactionary rhetoric and giving examples of conservative politicians he’s close with. Not to mention he has on so many conservative pundits he doesn’t need to have the politicians on. He’s already boosting their narratives.
Also, just to remind you since you said this:
Are you guys so void of critical thoughts that you can’t listen to someone you disagree with? Even for a few minutes?
I do follow the show. That’s why I’ve been citing moments from the show to back up my position. I directly referenced events from the past two podcasts. If you can’t accept this then I don’t think you’re intellectually capable of an actual discussion. If you make this empty accusation again I’m not going to respond.
It’s okay for Joe to be right wing. He’s allowed to change his perspective and think whatever he wants. It’s very telling however the length’s people will go to deny and obfuscate this reality.
Silverseren@kbin.social 9 months ago
Is that why Joe has been on an anti-trans kick for the past year alongside all the Republican fearmongering?
Fredol@lemmy.world 9 months ago
For the average american, you would be shocked to know that trans acceptance is still quite low. Joe being easily swayed by good propaganda like many other americans isn’t a testament that he has bad intentions. Instead of demonizing him as anti-lgbt (which he is not), people should encourage him to be more open minded.
Ganbat@lemmy.fmhy.net 9 months ago
You might be onto something there.