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Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

They would be exposing the hypocrites. They already look look like fucking morons for losing to trump, again, do not much to salvage there. Tell me any American could not miss the message when democrats stop the confirmation, roll out their own fake electors, and confirm kamala herself. Hell, have biden make it an official act because why not? Any person to object to it could not be totally lost on them this is exactly what Trump attempted to do.

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NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

They would be exposing the hypocrites

Exposing hypocrites never brings any real gain, only an opportunity to get upset.

Now please don’t get me wrong: getting upset might be worth it for many, many people. Getting upset is one of the highest valued things in our time.

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Lauchs@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

it would just stir the pot so brilliantly

Lol, no.

The world doesn’t work like this.

Who would get fired up who wasn’t already on side? Independents or those on the fence would just note that the Democrats were pulling the same nonsense they just spent four years crying fascism about. Right wingers would just see confirmation that the rules don’t matter. On the Left, the adults among us would see this as a stupid, hypocritical temper tantrum with no possibility of success and a further erosion of democratic norms.

This would be super unhelpful.

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- Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I disagree entirely. I would see the GOP get a taste of their own medicine and the DNC not be pussy bitches too afraid to serve it. Like it or not, your measured, “adult in the room” shit isn’t working and most people just feel condescending too. It’s of little consequence because what you have yet to accept is the door is shut already and this sissy fit would be honestly the last opportunity for the left to do something.
  
  They won’t.
  
  They’re punk ass butches.
  
  Just like you.
  
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  - Lauchs@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    last opportunity for the left to do something.
    
    To do what? This would accomplish exactly as much as when a toddler has a tantrum in the grocery store.
    
    “Oh no, the Dems tried some nonsense that doesn’t in any way inconvenience us, whatever will we do?!? Anyway.”
    
    If you think highlighting the hypocrisy would jolt people, I again remind you of the Supreme Court fun with Garland and RBG.
    
    All this does is make it harder for people to take the Dems seriously next time.
    
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    Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    There is no next time, bub.
    
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- Scubus@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  independants or those on the fence would just note that the democrats were pulling the same nonsense
  
  Yeah, and they fucked our country so fuck them. If you were “on the fence” about this election then you simply dont desrve voting rights. Your opinion does not matter anymore.
  
  Right wingers would just see it as confirmation that the rules dont matter
  
  Cool, nothing changes.
  
  On the left, the adults would see this as stupid, hypocritical temper tantrum
  
  Ah yes, the adults who have gotten so much done with the erosion of our democracy since 2016. Bruh fuck “the adults” too, you guys failed us. Get out of the way and let actual progress happen instead of considering maybe possibly giving ukraine a little bit of funding but definitely giving isreal nukes to use on civs.
  
  You people who want to work within the law while republicans consistently evade it are at best a waste of space. As worst, you are actively convincing people to simply pretend the issues are going to solve themselves, cause god knows you and your party wont.
  
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  - Lauchs@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    Yeah, and they fucked our country so fuck them. If you were “on the fence” about this election then you simply dont desrve voting rights. Your opinion does not matter anymore.
    
    Ironically, this is how a large swathe of the country feels about those who voted for Harris.
    
    Kid, we couldn’t even get a majority of Americans to vote with us this time. Hystrionics and temper tantrums are not going to make things better.
    
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    Scubus@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Bruh you are not listening.
    
    We couldnt even get a majority of americans to vote with us this time
    
    Yeah, and expect to see that forever. Were moved ng more to the right. We are literally getting worse and, at best, the democrats are too afraid to do anything about it. At worst theyre actively holding us back from progress and are no better than republicans.
    
    I do not care about how “a large swathe of the country” feels. I’m no longer delusing myself into thinking we can please everyone.
    
    The important thing is to make the world better, and that simply will not happen within the framework we have been given. Violence against republicans and the leaders of the democrat party are literally the only way forward.
    
    Like im not even interested in continuing this debate. If you want to take a look at the last decade of democrat ineffectiveness and decide to continue that trend, then arguing with you is pointless.
    
    I am not here to convince you, you want to sit on your laurels like all the other democrats that failed us. I am speaking to those that actually want the world yo get better
    
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