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mimichuu_@lemm.ee 9 months agoI’m not being defeatist at all. Quite on the contrary, I’m telling you to fight.
My point is that fighting within the system never works. Everything we achieve that way eventually gets taken away from us. As long as the ruling class is still in power, they simply benefit the most from granting us as little as possible, and so they will always search for ways to do just that, and to take away things they previously granted us if they think we wont be threatening enough to take them back.
That’s why I am saying, do not hire lobbyists or email politicians or something. Or if you do, make sure it’s not the only thing you do. Join an org. Join an union, a party, a syndicate, organize. That is what has brought, brings and will bring real change. Fight against the system.
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You know, there is a range of options available, between doing nothing, and full out anarchy/war.
And I’ve given you an example when it has worked. You’ve just ignored it and, twice.
Louis Rossman on YouTube, go look him up, and watch his videos about helping farmers with the right to repair by hiring a lobbyist.
mimichuu_@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I didn’t ignore it. I said what we achieve working within the system is a temporal concession and thus it’s not actually a reliable and deep change. It’s good, but it shouldn’t be the only thing we do.
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 9 months ago
But don’t you think that’s the first step, to start in the system? To not ignore that option?
We have proof that it works (nothing is forever), that it’s doable, so wouldn’t that be the first step, instead of outside of the system extremism?
mimichuu_@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I’ve seen countless times of things we need being completely ignored by the system. When it’s inconvenient enough it will simply never get passed. We can fight for it, and win, but if the same system remains in place, once again, what we won was a concession that can and will be taken away at the nearest chance. You showing me an example of a rich youtuber followed by millions of people being able to do it doesn’t change what the situation is like for regular people like you and me. You can do both if you want to, just don’t think emailing a bunch of rich aristocrats is going to ever have a reasonable chance of being meaningful. Seriously, if you want to make real change, join an org.
Also, “extremism” just means things that go against the status quo. It’s not a synonym for “bad”.