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Will change is a constant, and there’s always going to be some people who want to gain power for themselves for their own sakes to the detriment of others, and you have to fight back against that.

It sounds like you’re so cynical about things that you’re saying it’s not even trying, not worth fighting for. Sincerely if you’re not just someone trying to reshape the narrative away from activism, I would suggest, as the Internet likes to say, to go outside and ‘touch grass’.

For the record I’m not saying you get to utopia and then you stop, the job is done. You got to fight for what you have to keep it.

But to not fight that’s just defeatist, and not something I’ll never do, and no one else should either.

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mimichuu_@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I’m not being defeatist at all. Quite on the contrary, I’m telling you to fight.

My point is that fighting within the system never works. Everything we achieve that way eventually gets taken away from us. As long as the ruling class is still in power, they simply benefit the most from granting us as little as possible, and so they will always search for ways to do just that, and to take away things they previously granted us if they think we wont be threatening enough to take them back.

That’s why I am saying, do not hire lobbyists or email politicians or something. Or if you do, make sure it’s not the only thing you do. Join an org. Join an union, a party, a syndicate, organize. That is what has brought, brings and will bring real change. Fight against the system.

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- CosmicCleric@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  
  My point is that fighting within the system never works.
  
  You know, there is a range of options available, between doing nothing, and full out anarchy/war.
  
  And I’ve given you an example when it has worked. You’ve just ignored it and, twice.
  
  Louis Rossman on YouTube, go look him up, and watch his videos about helping farmers with the right to repair by hiring a lobbyist.
  
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  - mimichuu_@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I didn’t ignore it. I said what we achieve working within the system is a temporal concession and thus it’s not actually a reliable and deep change. It’s good, but it shouldn’t be the only thing we do.
    
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    CosmicCleric@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    But don’t you think that’s the first step, to start in the system? To not ignore that option?
    
    We have proof that it works (nothing is forever), that it’s doable, so wouldn’t that be the first step, instead of outside of the system extremism?
    
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