Stop going to such places. I don’t go there (because we don’t have that silly system). Why tip at all? Do u tip the cashier at the supermarket? Your IT-guy? Your mechanic? Your docs? The cops?
But for the sake of the argument: if noone would tip, noone would work as a waiter anymore and employers would have to pay decent salaries. You know, like everyone civilized would do.
Instead you support a disgusting asshole employee by paying the staffs salary AND food.
We don’t tip workers in those other fields you mentioned because they make a livable wage. Food service workers, particularly servers, often make less than minimum wage.
I’m glad wherever you live pays their wait staff a livable wage. If that happened in the US, tipping wouldn’t be the way it is now. Unfortunately the system has to change first. Until it does, if a customer patronizes a restaurant, they should tip. If someone can’t afford to tip, they should stay home.
The “invisible hand of the market” isn’t going to solve this issue. A change in labor law will. We either need state or federal laws to protect food service workers. Then employers will be forced to pay their staff better and tipping won’t be so compulsory.
We could probably argue about “living wage” of a supermarket cashier. Here they all, at least, make minimum wage. So tipping cashiers should be equally fine as tipping waiters.
Yes, the system is bad. Not the customer that don’t wanna tip. If 100% would not tip, the system HAS to change as noone would work as a waiter anymore. Doesn’t happen, so no change will ever happen. Except maybe paying them even less coz the customers compensate it willingly.
Not ideal too, yes. Hence i would stop eating outside if i would live in such a system.
Yes. Sure. But obviously it works great, so where’s the need for change? People still wanna work waiting and people still tip.
And considering you guys vote billionaires for your representative, it’s all working as intended. There’s even wiggle-room to milk you for even more…
But i would hope for u guys that there ever will be some good change.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
Stop going to such places. I don’t go there (because we don’t have that silly system). Why tip at all? Do u tip the cashier at the supermarket? Your IT-guy? Your mechanic? Your docs? The cops?
But for the sake of the argument: if noone would tip, noone would work as a waiter anymore and employers would have to pay decent salaries. You know, like everyone civilized would do. Instead you support a disgusting asshole employee by paying the staffs salary AND food.
MarshallBravestarr@lemmy.world 4 days ago
We don’t tip workers in those other fields you mentioned because they make a livable wage. Food service workers, particularly servers, often make less than minimum wage.
I’m glad wherever you live pays their wait staff a livable wage. If that happened in the US, tipping wouldn’t be the way it is now. Unfortunately the system has to change first. Until it does, if a customer patronizes a restaurant, they should tip. If someone can’t afford to tip, they should stay home.
The “invisible hand of the market” isn’t going to solve this issue. A change in labor law will. We either need state or federal laws to protect food service workers. Then employers will be forced to pay their staff better and tipping won’t be so compulsory.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
We could probably argue about “living wage” of a supermarket cashier. Here they all, at least, make minimum wage. So tipping cashiers should be equally fine as tipping waiters.
Yes, the system is bad. Not the customer that don’t wanna tip. If 100% would not tip, the system HAS to change as noone would work as a waiter anymore. Doesn’t happen, so no change will ever happen. Except maybe paying them even less coz the customers compensate it willingly. Not ideal too, yes. Hence i would stop eating outside if i would live in such a system.
Yes. Sure. But obviously it works great, so where’s the need for change? People still wanna work waiting and people still tip. And considering you guys vote billionaires for your representative, it’s all working as intended. There’s even wiggle-room to milk you for even more… But i would hope for u guys that there ever will be some good change.