Comment on US Elections question: Bernie Sanders said that the Democrats abandoned the working class, and the working class abandoned them. How is this true?

grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• CM400@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Excellent write up, I donated to Feed the Children in your name.

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• Wrench@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  The “fight for $15” (minimum wage increase) has been going on for so long with zero [Federal] success that, due to inflation, it ought to be renamed “fight for $30” by now.

  And the side that won has been fighting the minimum wage hike for “so long”. Who’s the enemy of the working class again?

  The lip service given in supporting unions was belied by how Biden fucked over the railroad workers.

  This is a lie that has been repeated time and time again. He fast followed the end of the strike with helping the workers get exactly what they wanted. He aided their negotiations AND got our supply lines back on line.

  Inequality (the gap between the working class and the 1%) is continuing to spiral out of control and the Democrats had very little to say about stopping it. It’s important to remember that “tax the rich” was only supported by the progressive subset of the Democratic Party.

  Again, which party is it giving the mega wealthy tax breaks? Who is appointing billionaires to run the government? Who controlled the House and prevented tax reform from going through?

  We need zoning reform coupled with switching from property tax to land-value tax, to stop enabling the hoarding of underdeveloped property by protecting it from market forces (i.e. real reforms to make housing affordable again).

  That is state level reform. Obviously.

  We also need things like vigorous enforcement of anti-trust law and consumer protection laws, so that the public feels (and is) less exploited by corporations.

  No argument there, but which party is constantly eroding our current regulations that protect consumers and workers?

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  • grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The lip service given in supporting unions was belied by how Biden fucked over the railroad workers.

    This is a lie that has been repeated time and time again. He fast followed the end of the strike with helping the workers get exactly what they wanted. He aided their negotiations AND got our supply lines back on line.

    Nope, I did my homework on that one before posting it. From en.wikipedia.org/…/2022_United_States_railroad_la… :

    Early on September 15, Biden announced a deal had been reached to prevent a strike, including an immediate 14% wage increase, but only one day of paid leave per year rather than the 15 days of paid sick leave unions wanted. … On December 1, the Senate passed the tentative agreement with only 1 day of sick leave. President Joe Biden signed the legislation into law on December 2. The Biden administration’s intervention in the dispute was condemned by over 500 labor historians in an open letter to Joe Biden and Secretary of Labor Marty Walsh.

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    • jj122@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I get what you are saying but it still isn’t the complete story. Yes he didn’t let them shut down a major pillar of our economy and at that time forced them to take an agreement that was basically everything they wanted except for off time. But his admin spent the months after getting those concessions from the railroads. The IBEW even thanked the admin for their work. He supported many other labor unions right to strike without interference.

      www.ibew.org/media-center/…/230620_IBEWandPaid

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      • grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        1. Still less than half the sick days the workers originally demanded, and deserved.
        2. The damage to Biden’s reputation re: supporting the working class was already done.

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    • Wrench@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Well, you failed your homework assignment, then.

      Further down your own Wikipedia article

      In February 2023, CSX announced a deal to provide four days of paid sick leave annually, plus the option of converting three personal days into additional paid sick time with two unions.

      Citation from your own linked article

      Which also clearly states that the original agreement that included 7 days was shot down by Republican senators, which is why the 1 sick day had to be the first iteration. And also includes details on how Biden’s administration continuing pressure on the railroad companies that ultimately yielded 7 sick days for the majority of railroad union workers by half a year later.

      But yeah, keep intentionally misrepresenting recent history. It helped elect the guy who is so anti worker that he habitually stuffs his own workers of overtime, or refuses to pay them at all.

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      • grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        7 isn’t 15, which is what the workers were initially going to strike for (and deserved).

        But yeah, keep intentionally misrepresenting recent history. It helped elect the guy who is so anti worker that he habitually stiffs his own workers of overtime, or refuses to pay them at all.

        What in the time travel bullshit is this? You do understand that being honest about Biden’s fuck-ups now can’t do any more damage – and moreover, is necessary if there’s any hope to do better next time – right? If you’re going to accuse me of saying this stuff previously (when it would’ve been damaging), you’d better fucking bring receipts. Check my comment history. I’ll wait. And then you can fucking apologize!

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  • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Again, which party is it giving the mega wealthy tax breaks?

    But that’s rather the point here, isn’t it? So much Democrat rhetoric and support comes across as, “they’re worse so you have to like us.” Not exactly inspiring to people whose livelihoods are struggling.

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