Comment on Why shouldn’t firearm manufacturers be held accountable for the use of their weapons in crimes?

• relative_iterator@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  3/4 states would need to ratify an amendment repealing the 2nd amendment. I can’t imagine any amendment being ratified in my lifetime let alone one repealing the 2nd amendment.

  I’d rather start with legislation that has majority support and a realistic chance of passing.

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  • Neato@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No. We'd just need to get rid of the ridiculous interpretation that half of the 2nd amendment text doesn't matter. Well regulated militia doesn't mean any Tom, Dick or Harry.

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    • applejacks@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes it does.

      You simply do not understand what “well regulated” means.

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    • relative_iterator@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Probably more doable but doubtful with the current Supreme Court.

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  • YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The 2nd Amendment doesn’t give citizens the right to bare arms, it gives States the right to have militias or what is the National Guard today. Any uncompromised Judge would agree with that.

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    • FireTower@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “[historical] (in the US) all able-bodied citizens eligible by law to be called on to provide military service supplementary to the regular armed forces.”

      -oxford language dictionary

      The 2nd amendment wouldn’t need to give states the rights to have their own national guard because of the 10th amendment.

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      • YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        States are sovereign governments so yes they have to be granted the right to bare arms.

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• Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  we don't need to do that. we just need to restrict stuff like 50 round magazines.

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  • KevonLooney@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We shouldn’t even be talking about how easy it is to kill 50 people.

    It’s like saying “Yeah, the Head Chopper 2000 can cut off 3 heads at once but at least it isn’t the Head Chopper 3000. That one can do 10!”

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  • applejacks@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A reload takes about 3 seconds.

    The vast majority of firearms deaths have not used high capacity mags.

    This is just the typical uninformed screaming.

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• MisterMcBolt@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I would argue that it’s currently impossible, or at least extremely difficult, to remove the civilian firearms from the United States. If I had a magic spell that could make all the guns vanish at once, I’d cast it in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, there are so many firearms already in the US that it’d be absurd to expect all (or even most) people to voluntarily surrender them. The situation is made all the worse because of a minority of criminals and capitalists who would no doubt seek to profit off of a seizure or surrender scheme.

  Hope, then, seems to lie with focusing on a healthier, happier future. An America where less people are forced into crime, and where profit for profit’s sake is frowned upon, sounds ideal.

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