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If you really want to know, I have maintained a presence on both left and right wing sites since the schism ~2016, as a life long liberal who felt they could no longer support the insanity over the past decade, but is still apprehensive of hardcore conservatism.

To be blunt, the energy among the right is extremely high right now. The Puff Daddy case has them celebrating like crazy, because despite what people here like to say about them, ending the institutionalized sex trafficking is actually the most important issue for many of them. Along with that, they’re extremely happy that the democrats have such a weak candidate, as they see this election to be the largest potential obstacle to actually being capable of addressing said institutionalized sex trafficking.

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rsuri@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
So as I understand it, overarching priorities of Trump supporters are:

ending sex trafficking

stop making the poor poorer and

fighting election fraud

So they’re excited about a guy who:

Had by his own admission/bragging, had a 15 year long friendship with Jeffrey Epstein.

Passed the largest corporate tax cut in history, and plans to eliminate income tax which is paid at a higher rate by high income individuals, replacing it with tariffs that fall disproportionately on the poor.

Made numerous fraudulent claims and tried to submit a fraudulent slate of electors after the last election.
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donuts@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I won’t shoot the messenger, but I need to know: what is the “institutionalized sex trafficking” you are referring to and how does it fit with being an important issue when you look at Trump vs Harris?

Only one of them is in pictures with Epstein for a start. So how do they flip that around? Or are we talking Q stuff like pizzagate?

Also important to know: why would Harris be the largest potential obstacle to be capable of addressing it?

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- ogmios@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  This video may help to shed some light on the issue for you. Basically, it’s been going on for much longer than most people realize.
  
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  - donuts@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    This doesn’t really answer any of the questions, but again, I’m not going to hold you accountable for their actions. Thanks for trying, at least.
    
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    ogmios@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Ah, I may be skipping over some details that are considered common knowledge over there. So basically Epstein, and others he was involved with, and others like him, appear to have been offering their “services” to provide for the fantasies of the rich and the powerful, whatever they may be, while also collecting blackmail material on those same people for political purposes. This appears to have been connected to Mossad, and is believed to be largely responsible for allowing some of the more corrupt behaviours within western societies to persist.
    
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jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
There are points of political thought that don’t like on the conservative <-> liberal line. Which is a shockingly short line to begin with, once you see it from the outside.

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- ogmios@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The parts that concern me the most are areas where the political parties tend to walk in lock step, such as mass surveillance and monetary policy. The fact that Trump has had a rocky relationship with the GoP ever since he announced his candidacy for the 2016 election helps his image with others who are concerned about the “uniparty”.
  
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