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Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

You could just about make the phrase “cultural conservative” do the job, but it has regrettable connotations from American politics.

Then there’s traditionalism, but it doesn’t come prepackaged with the nuance you intend. You’d still have to explain what kind of traditions you mean.

You could avoid an outright label and just talk about “preserving Cantonese identity”. Or feel free to coin a neologism, e.g. “Cantoneist”. There’s no wrong answer in English if you do it with style. IMO.

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radix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Cultural ~~conservative~~ conservationist

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- Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Yes.
  
  And do maintain the struck portion, it adds all the nuance required.
  
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  - Pat12@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    And do maintain the struck portion, it adds all the nuance required.
    
    could you explain? english isn’t my first language
    
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    Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    If you say it as “Cultural ~~conservative~~ conservationist”, with the crossed out bit, that will signal that you’re just talking about preserving the culture and not outright ethnic chauvinism.
    
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Pat12@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

You’d still have to explain what kind of traditions you mean.

Well, there is the cantonese ethnic group with their own traditions like food, they have a different history than people from northern china, the people may be more spiritual than mainland china, the cantonese language itself is distinctive from other chinese language (it is a dialect of the yue languages), hong kong itself has its own history and culture because it’s been an ‘east meets west’ city for so long

I don’t think these aspects are specific to HK, I would imagine it would be like someone from a minority ethnic group in South Africa or India or Afghanistan where they want to preserve their own ethnic group’s language and culture and history against the majority group’s culture

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- Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I’m a fan of “Cultural ~~conservative~~ conservationist”. Courtesy of @radix.
  
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merde@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
most of the terms around identity politics have regrettable connotations :/

nationalist 🤮

loyalist 😱

conservatism

i guess conservation is the closest to what op is asking for.

Brittany in France, Catalonia in Spain, Flanders in Belgium, Basque?

Not independentist or separatist but rather protectionist

protectionism?
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- Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Economic connotations with that last one.
  
  My “no wrong answers” assurances are looking pretty hilarious at this point.
  
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  - merde@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    yes. i had nothing but wrong answers 😅
    
    maybe this can help:
    
    A treasure language is one of the thousands of small languages still spoken in the world today. The term was proposed by the Rama people of Nicaragua as an alternative to heritage language, indigenous language, and “ethnic language”, names that are considered pejorative in the local context. The term is now also used in the context of public storytelling events.
    
    The term “treasure language” references the desire of speakers to sustain the use of their mother tongue into the future
    
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- Natanael@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Preservationism has already been mentioned. Or “heterogenous” culture (also often called multiculturalism, but the latter term also have a lot of history which might not apply)
  
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- hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Nationalism could work if you add a spin on it to separate yourself from the right wing nuts. Combining it with some other word such as socialism could be better?
  
  /s
  
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  - merde@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    🧟
    
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