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CerealKiller01@lemmy.world 3 weeks agoYou think Hamas would treat Israelis the same as the allied forces treated Germans? Based on what?
To answer your question:
en.wikipedia.org/…/7_October_Hamas-led_attack_on_… (as well as the mass murder of civilians that for some reason aren’t mentioned in the section)
FelixCress@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Firstly, who was talking about Hamas? I never said Israel should be disarmed by Hamas. It should be disarmed by an international coalition, which would then it turn guarantee harsh punishment for Israeli war criminals starting with Netanyahu and safety for civilian population within Israel internationally recognises borders.
Secondly, I belive Hamas would treat Israeli the same way Israel treats Palestinians. Go figure.
CerealKiller01@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
What “should”? The context of the discussion is the screenshot, and it said "if “Zionism is defeated like the south was defeated in the civil war”. The comparison to the US civil war might be a bit weird, but it’s pretty obvious he means “If Hamas were to win the conflict and treat Israel as it saw fit” (like what happened in the civil war).
Also, it’s a bit weird for me you’re phrasing your scenario as a “Zionist defeat”, as I know many Zionists (myself included) who would view that as a “Zionist win”, at least in the long run (as long as you’re for equal treatment of Hamas and Palestinians).
That’s a bit funny to me, as I think Hamas treats Palestinians wore than Israel treats Palestinians, but there’s probably no point going into that. Regardless, do you think this would be worse, the same or better than the current situation?
FelixCress@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Try to read again. Slowly.
CerealKiller01@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Counteroffer - try to read what I said with the understanding there might be a difference between what you think “Zionism” is and what Zionism actually is. Not all Zionists would agree with what I said, but then again that’s also one of the thing you probably don’t understand.
Denjin@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
In 12 months, Israel has killed 40,000+ Palestinians, more than a third of those have been children.
medgremlin@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
The way that Hamas treats Palestinians is partially the responsibility of Netanyahu and the Likud given that they provided Hamas with material support to take power in the first place. Also, the fact that Israelis stormed an IDF base in protest of the punishment of IDF thugs that anally raped innocent Palestinians to death with rifles tells me a lot about what Israel thinks of all Palestinians, not just the ones that are actually part of Hamas.
CerealKiller01@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
First of all, you didn’t address the main point I was making, or answered my question (just wanted to point that out).
Not really. Netanyahu didn’t provide material support for Hamas, rather allowed Qatar to materially support them (Yet somehow I don’t see anyone condemning Qatar…). Also, this began about a decade after Hamas took over Gaza. And, really, it’s an extremely weak argument even if what you said were true. Saying Israel is partially responsible for the way Hamas treated the people in Gaza doesn’t mean it treated Palestinians worse than Hamas.
That’s not what happened. The IDF detained some soldiers who allegedly anally raped and perhaps killed Palestinian detainees as part of an investigation. After hearing that, some extreme right wingers stormed the base in something raging from protest against the way soldiers were detained to the mere fact they were detained (depending on who you ask). The act was condemned by a huge majority of the Israeli public. Judging Israel by that is like judging the US by the proud boys of the Jan 6th Capitol riots. But let’s go back to your point of Israel treating Palestinians worse than Hamas - could you point out an example of Hamas investigating it’s operatives for mistreating detainees? If not, is it because you think Hamas doesn’t mistreat its detainees?