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Comment105@lemm.ee 1 month agoYou started this by blaming vegans for reducing interest in animal rights, surely a projection of how you feel onto society.
Nope, that’s literally just what has happened.
Consider the fucking argument, consider how widely unpopular you are.
Veganism will never be the global majority, you’re delusional to think you’re supporting animal rights if you are so vehemently against enforcing better conditions in captivity.
…your excuse for not learning more about veganism or trying it…
Fuck you.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Factory farms won’t get better until demand reduces.
Got any great ideas to make factory farms more humane that won’t slow down production of meat? Is the demand going up or down over time?
Of course the answer can’t be reducing meat consumption in general, right? Dont have to be vegan to eat less meat do you now?
Comment105@lemm.ee 1 month ago
You can literally enforce better conditions in factory farms, and it’s possible we could’ve had the support required to make it happen.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
How would we do that without dramatically reducing the amount of meat being produced?
As for the support, it sounds like you are blaming vegans for factory farmers actions. If they want to do things more humanely they are free to do it.
Its a waste of time in my opinion, and its hypocritical to be an animal activist who eats animals.
We can have a conversation about the ethical slaughterhouse in your mind but I guarantee you we will not agree on what is ethical treatment of an animal if thats the case.
Comment105@lemm.ee 1 month ago
You’re refusing to get this point right: I’m blaming vegans for public disinterest, which indirectly allows the factories to completely maximize profits by squeezing the animals they use.
I know you think that. You’re vegan.
You don’t care about the pig in the pen any more than you care about the prey in the field. What bothers you is that there are carnivores on your block. A cow could be tortured and slaughtered at 5, or live comfortably in a field and die of natural causes, it makes no difference to you. You’re bothered by the steak on the plate. That’s your fight.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
maybe you can’t, but it seems like you think that would be a good outcome.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
I don’t believe you have any proof of this. there is no mechanism by which reducing demand would improve factory farms.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Why do factory farms use outdated slaughter techniques in the first place? Production quantity comes first. They will not reduce their capacity to produce meat just to make the animals lives better.
Where’s the evidence that your idea is any better than mine anyways?
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
i didn’t present any other idea. i said you don’t have any evidence your idea holds water.