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• Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I can’t predict the future if thats what you mean.

  Theres plenty of evidence that reducing meat production where possible will help everyone. Theres plenty of evidence that at least a mostly plant based diet is better for personal health for most people.

  Less animals suffering is a plus too but you could leave it out and still come to the conclusion that there is something behind plant based and partially plant based diets.

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Less animals suffering is a plus too but you could leave it out and still come to the conclusion that there is something behind plant based and partially plant based diets.

    this is a nonsequitur. my guess is you have tried plant based diet, and the amount of animal slaughter has only increased:

    ourworldindata.org/…/meat-production-tonnes?tab=c…

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    • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We’ve had this argument like twice already.

      I never claimed that me being a vegan would end animal suffering.

      If you would admit that the line on your graph would go up quicker if all vegetarians and vegans went back to eating meat, then you have to also admit it would go up slower if more people went vegan, vegetarian, or simply ate 25% less meat than they normally do.

      You must be able to see the math there? Do I need to send you university debate level arguments? I can find them for you if you want.

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        We’ve had this argument like twice already.

        and you still haven’t seemed to grasp the lack of evidence for your claim.

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Do I need to send you university debate level arguments

        i’m not interested in debate. i’m interested in provable claims.

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        your graph would go up quicker if all vegetarians and vegans went back to eating meat,

        as i can’t prove a counterfactual, i wouldn’t make any such claim. i have no reason to believe that production could increase any faster.

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I never claimed that me being a vegan would end animal suffering.

        you did say it would reduce it, but all the evidence is that is not true.

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Theres plenty of evidence that reducing meat production where possible will help everyone.

    this is a different claim than you made before

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    • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What claim did I make before?

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Factory farms won’t get better until demand reduces

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