The only place I have seen that work was the Internet in the 90’s. Nowhere in the real world.
There are real world success stories of anarcho-socialist societies (although perhaps not syndicalist) even in the present day. I’m not saying this to claim whether it’s viable or not in our industrialized conditions with imperialist empires at play, just pointing out relevant info.
The largest scale anarchist-style societies I know of are:
FEJUVE in Bolivia, population >100,000, ongoing for 45 years
Chiapas autonomous areas (formerly MAREZ) in Mexico, population >300,000, ongoing for 30 years, although reorganised structurally last year
And while I’m aware they don’t technically qualify as anarchist, they are certainly evidence of autonomous modes of social organisation at a scale larger than many existing states.
I know of only one community in my country of Australia: Tuntable Falls. I can only find pages related to the school or real estate. It is 20 minutes drive from Nimbin which in turn is 40 minutes from Byron Bay, NSW.
If we include smaller communes, then Wikipedia has a sizable list of intentional communities which is fun to explore. I found Cheran interesting, they had problems with organised crime coming into town and logging, disappearing people who tried to stop them, and the police and politicians were complicit, so the town kicked them all out. Now if you try to drive in with a political sticker on your car, it will get torn off at the checkpoint.
A short Vice video on the place had some interesting interviews, including a local patroller who said crime plummeted and is now basically as simple as pub fights that locals can split up, and an interview with a political representative who was voted in, despite them not really wanting the job as they would get paid more in the previous job. Reminds me of a Douglas Adams quote:
[…] To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. […]
It worked for a time in Catalonia until the Fascists destroyed them, in Ukraine it worked very well but the soviets destroyed them as well. Its not that it doesn’t work but rather that the right conditions haven’t been met yet.
sqgl@beehaw.org 3 days ago
The only place I have seen that work was the Internet in the 90’s. Nowhere in the real world.
eureka@aussie.zone 2 days ago
There are real world success stories of anarcho-socialist societies (although perhaps not syndicalist) even in the present day. I’m not saying this to claim whether it’s viable or not in our industrialized conditions with imperialist empires at play, just pointing out relevant info.
The largest scale anarchist-style societies I know of are:
And while I’m aware they don’t technically qualify as anarchist, they are certainly evidence of autonomous modes of social organisation at a scale larger than many existing states.
Tagging @kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone for relevance.
sqgl@beehaw.org 1 day ago
Thanks. Despite my scepticism I have sought out such communities and had not heard of those two.
There is also Mondragon in Spain…
I know of only one community in my country of Australia: Tuntable Falls. I can only find pages related to the school or real estate. It is 20 minutes drive from Nimbin which in turn is 40 minutes from Byron Bay, NSW.
I suppose there is Kibbutzim in Israel.
eureka@aussie.zone 1 day ago
If we include smaller communes, then Wikipedia has a sizable list of intentional communities which is fun to explore. I found Cheran interesting, they had problems with organised crime coming into town and logging, disappearing people who tried to stop them, and the police and politicians were complicit, so the town kicked them all out. Now if you try to drive in with a political sticker on your car, it will get torn off at the checkpoint. A short Vice video on the place had some interesting interviews, including a local patroller who said crime plummeted and is now basically as simple as pub fights that locals can split up, and an interview with a political representative who was voted in, despite them not really wanting the job as they would get paid more in the previous job. Reminds me of a Douglas Adams quote:
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
It worked for a time in Catalonia until the Fascists destroyed them, in Ukraine it worked very well but the soviets destroyed them as well. Its not that it doesn’t work but rather that the right conditions haven’t been met yet.