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• Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They leveraged open source to compete on the console front without actually investing dev time. If he could have created a closed system for the same cost, he wouldn’t of hesitated. It was nothing more than a smart business decision, not a nice favor because he likes you.

  Most of the Gaben simps just throw back the same thing, “well, they aren’t as bad as microsoft”.

  Mussolini wasn’t as bad as Hitler, can you image defending him though? Stop bootlicking billionaires.

  I’m also not saying Microsoft is better, I’m saying they are all in the same club and they all suck.

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  • null@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They leveraged open source to compete on the console front without actually investing dev time. If he could have created a closed system for the same cost, he wouldn’t of hesitated. It was nothing more than a smart business decision, not a nice favor because he likes you.

    I asked you a question. Show me contributions to open-source on the same scale by Xbox and Nintendo. If it’s so much cheaper, why aren’t they doing it too?

    Most of the Gaben simps just throw back the same thing, “well, they aren’t as bad as microsoft”.

    Mussolini wasn’t as bad as Hitler, can you image defending him though? Stop bootlicking billionaires.

    I’m also not saying Microsoft is better, I’m saying they are all in the same club and they all suck.

    No, you said they were exactly the same and that Gabe was colluding with them. Now you’re backpedalling because you realized how stupid of a take that was.

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    • Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Microsoft contributes a lot of stuff to open source but that’s really far away from my point. I’m not back peddling, I’m explaining myself because you are being a child and taking my words way to literally. Microsoft being slightly worse does not make steam “good”.

      Valve can run and offer the same services it does now on a fraction of what they charge.

      They could easily properly compete, every store could drastically lower their pricing, but they don’t, because they like having a soft monopoly.

      “Explain it to me or you lose” is insanely childish behavior, specially when I just explained that’s not what I meant and you are being too literal but I mean, here:

      Explain to me why you think Gaben deserves a net worth of 4 000 000 000 $.

      That is who you are being a mouthpiece for, stop defending billionaires.

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      • null@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Microsoft contributes a lot of stuff to open source but that’s really far away from my point.

        Microsoft is not a fair comparison to Steam, hence why I refocused to Xbox.

        I’m explaining myself because you are being a child and taking my words way to literally. Microsoft being slightly worse does not make steam “good”.

        “Obviously I didn’t mean what I said, don’t be a child!” 🙄

        Valve can run and offer the same services it does now on a fraction of what they charge.

        They could even do it for free, out of the goodness of their hearts!

        “Explain it to me or you lose” is insanely childish behavior, specially when I just explained that’s not what I meant and you are being too literal but I mean, here

        “I was told there would be no fact-checking”

        Explain to me why you think Gaben deserves a net worth of 4 000 000 000 $.

        Wow, those goalposts are really movin’ now!

        That is who you are being a mouthpiece for, stop defending billionaires.

        See my previous comment.

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  • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They leveraged open source to compete on the console front without actually investing dev time.

    This is just false.

    Valve has funded a lot of extra work though to get things like DXVK and VKD3D-Proton for the translation from Direct3D to Vulkan into a state where performance can be really great! Valve also funds work on Linux graphics drivers, Linux kernel work and the list goes on.

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    The included improvements to Wine have been designed and funded by Valve, in a joint development effort with CodeWeavers. Here are some examples of what we’ve been working on together since 2016:

    • vkd3d, the Direct3D 12 implementation based on Vulkan
    • The OpenVR and Steamworks native API bridges
    • Many wined3d performance and functionality fixes for Direct3D 9 and Direct3D 11
    • Overhauled fullscreen and gamepad support
    • The “esync” patchset, for multi-threaded performance improvements

    Modifications to Wine are submitted upstream if they’re compatible with the goals and requirements of the larger Wine project; as a result, Wine users have been benefiting from parts of this work for over a year now. The rest is available as part of our source code repository for Proton and its modules.

    In addition to that, we’ve been supporting the development of DXVK, the Direct3D 11 implementation based on Vulkan; the nature of this support includes:

    • Employing the DXVK developer in our open-source graphics group since February 2018
    • Providing direct support from our open-source graphics group to fix Mesa driver issues affecting DXVK, and provide prototype implementations of brand new Vulkan features to improve DXVK functionality
    • Working with our partners over at Khronos, NVIDIA, Intel and AMD to coordinate Vulkan feature and driver support

    from Valve’s original Proton announcement

    You should try doing some research before making such claims.

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    • Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Valve had 71 peoples working in their steam division in 2021. 31 where admin so that leaves 40 people for all their hardware. I’m going to take a wild guess and say maybe 3 to 5 were working on things linux related.

      I’d call that leveraging at that amount of people, for a company that brings in an estimated 6.5 billion a year, and the fact that most of the code was already there.

      Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad linux got a boost out of it but there’s no doubt in my mind he would have built a private OS if it could be done with 5 people. It was a bargain for him, it wasn’t a favor.

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      • null@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Completely ignores financial contributions.

        Disingenuous? Dumb? Who knows!?

        most of the code was already there

        AHAHAHAHAHA every developer in the thread is absolutely cackling at you right now.

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      • null@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Just so we’re clear here – you pulled your original numbers out of nowhere, but made them oddly specific (71) to give the impression that you were citing an actual source.

        That is hilariously pathetic.

        And barely even matters since you’re ignoring 90% of the comment you replied to (financing and partnerships).

        Just really paints a picture of how boring, basic, and uninformed your opinion is, for all the cockiness you came in here with.

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      • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        [citations needed]

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      • Blisterexe@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Note that most people that valve pays to work on open source were preixisting maintainers and not actual employees, or employees of companies like Blue Systems

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