I like how you act like you really believe these things and that they make sense.
Comment on The Reason for the Electoral College
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 6 days ago. The United States is a republic governed by states. That’s why a popular vote is an incredibly stupid idea as it conflicts with our form of government.
Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 4 days ago
They do make sense. We have a very stable government for a reason. A popular vote is something people who do understand the Constitution or the power of the states.
Being president isn’t about being popular. It is about the states picking the person to represent them.
We are a representative government. We are not a boy band where popularity matters.
Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
A popular vote is something people who do understand the Constitution or the power of the states.
I can’t parse that sentence.
Being president isn’t about being popular. It is about the states picking the person to represent them.
We are a representative government. We are not a boy band where popularity matters.What? Within each state it’s a popularity contest.
So you’re saying popular vote or ‘boy band popularity contest’ is fine within each state, but not for the whole nation at once, because we have to disproportionately select electors where people in North Dakota count 3x as much as people in Texas or California. Why’s that? The Senate is already bad enough where 30 million people in Texas get the same weight as 4 million people in Oregon or 700,000 in North Dakota.
The idea that the US is a coalition of independent states made sense over 150 years ago or 250 years ago, but not so much now. As much as say, some idiots in Texas fantasize about it, states are not free to leave the US and it’s no different than any country made up of provinces.
I would be more fine with the electoral college if the number of electors was updated to match growing populations. The system also is super lame in how it makes the entire election come down to tens of thousands of votes in ‘swing states’.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 4 days ago
What? Within each state it’s a popularity contest. To a degree but maybe you forgot the electors? They have the controlling vote. In 33 states, there are laws against faithless electors, but the others do not.
It sounds like you don’t understand how the system works or why it works the way it does. If you are not aware of electors then you really don’t get how the ELECTORAL college works.
The idea that the US is a coalition of independent states made sense over 150 years ago or 250 years ago, but not so much now
It makes more sense now than ever. That is the basic structure of our government. The 10th amendment even clarifies the power structure.
As much as say, some idiots in Texas fantasize about it, states are not free to leave the US and it’s no different than any country made up of provinces.
That is why we have the Electoral College. That way, each state will have a fair vote for president.
The system also is super lame in how it makes the entire election come down to tens of thousands of votes in ‘swing states’.
Now that is something I can agree with. It puts to much focus on a few states every few years since it is unlikely anyone will visit a solid red/blue state but the popular vote will lead to instability that would cause another civil war.
It would also require a constitutional amendment, which would never pass. Most states would never pass a system that would diminish their power.
It is something the left whines about but that isn’t going to change in our lifetime. You would 3/4 the states to agree to change it and that isn’t happening anytime soon.
WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 5 days ago
How many ammendments to the Constitution are there, and why?
dvoraqs@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Do you prefer voting for somebody that promises to do what a large diverse group of people want or voting on issues directly?
Kaboom@reddthat.com 6 days ago
It’s worked so far
TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 13 hours ago
If you’re a white make of moderate to high wealth*
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 6 days ago
The idea is the majority vote for stupid things. The people we vote it are supposed to balance it with intelligence. Just because children want extra candy doesn’t mean they should get the the candy.
Kaboom@reddthat.com 6 days ago
That’s kinda fucked up to say. We’re talking about full grown adults here, not children
Ruediger@feddit.org 6 days ago
No. You vote for your state stuff and you vote for your federal government, these are separate things and the votes should be counted equally, equality is a necessity to a good version of democracy.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 6 days ago
The founding fathers hated democracy. They knew it would lead to idiots voting for the wrong things.
That’s why we vote for people to represent us.