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hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 2 weeks agoI’m always torn about this.
If you have those thoughts and act on it, it’s a crime and it’s awful. But if you don’t, why should we penalize you? Shouldn’t we encourage people with those thoughts not to act on it?
It’s a really dark topic, but I really wish we could properly discuss it. And if we consider how many people seem to have those thoughts, we should find a better way than to hunt them. Because to them it’s just a “damned if you do, danned if you don’t” and that’s probably gonna encourage more crimes.
Unfortunately considering how bipartisan all conversations are and how hard it is to discuss those topics, it’s gonna be awhile until we can really take a shot at improving our processes when it comes to that.
degen@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Legality aside, insofar as it is philosophically debatable, gross and pedophilic is still gross and pedophilic.
If you know someone is thinking about murdering people around them, but holds off, would that make you feel any safer? I think the focus should be helping people not want that rather than appeasement.
hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes it would. If I knew someone is thinking about murder and someone else is doing the murder, and I could choose, I would definitely take the one thinking about murder.
Now it would be great if no one was thinking about murder in the first place but the world is complex, and because we are able to choose to some degree, let’s do that instead of saying “IDC both is bad to the same degree”.
degen@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
I agree nobody should be imprisoned for having thoughts. I also don’t think accepting something like loli as an outlet is helpful. Emulation of problematic tendencies isn’t exactly therapeutic.
hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
While I don’t think emulation is a bad way in every case, this stuff can get very complex and I’m neither a scientist studying psychology nor a therapist, and for that matter I think those are the people that should brain storm a proper way to treat those people.
And we can start by calling them what they are in the first place. Sick in the brain. Mentally ill. And then we can start treating them properly.
And if they still commit crimes, then we can all say we tried our best and we prioritize our safety again and they will go to prison for (at least) a while.
But yeah, finding a better systematic way to prevent sexual crimes should be our priority over the satisfaction of identifying and shaming people with bad thoughts.
Veneroso@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Anti abortion but pro school shootings. That’s another one of those hipocracy positions.