Comment on Redirect to prevent back button

ThePantser@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• subtext@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I just default to opening in a new tab because of shitty UX like this

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• ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t know about “easily.” replaceState() is actually intended to make single-page apps easier to use, by allowing you to use your back button as expected even when you’re staying on the same URL the entire time.

  Likewise, single-page apps are intended to be faster and more efficient than downloading a new static page that’s 99.9% identical to the old one every time you change something.

  Fixing this bad experience would eliminate the legitimate uses of replaceState().

  Now, what they could do is track your browser history “canonically” and fork it off whenever Javascript alters its state, and then allow you to use a keyboard shortcut (Alt + Back, perhaps?) to go to the “canonical” previous item in history instead of to the “forked” previous item.

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  • SplashJackson@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I can handle life without the legitimate use case if it means no more clickjacking bs from companies that should know better

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    • ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’d prefer not to let the bad actors dictate browser design.

      “Let’s get rid of images since companies can use images to spoof browserchrome elements.”

      “Let’s get rid of text since scammers can pretend to be sending messages from the computer’s operating system.”

      “Let’s get rid of email since phishing exists.”

      Nah. We can do some stuff (like the aforementioned forked history) to ameliorate the problem, and if it’s well-known enough, companies won’t find it necessary anymore. Heck, browsers like Firefox would probably even let you select Canonical Back as the default Back Button behavior, and then you can have the web the way you want it (like people who disable Javascript).

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      • gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        like people who disable Javascript).

        i do that, and i found that a TON of microsoft & bank/work websites just refuse to do anything without it. i love the modern internet /s

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      • ggppjj@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m frustrated that removing bad functionality is being treated as a slippery slope with obviously bad and impossible jokes as the examples chosen.

        I see a bad feature being abused, and I don’t see the removal of that bad feature as a dangerous path to getting rid of email. I don’t ascribe the same weight that you seem to towards precedent in this matter.

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    • brbposting@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Image

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  • 4am@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Pop a window open with a your app in it (with the user’s permission) without a back button if you want that.

    A web page should be a document, not an experience.

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    • ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That would absolutely make everything worse, no question; the web should be more integrated, not less. We shouldn’t incentivize even more companies to silo off their content into apps.

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      • ggppjj@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think the word ‘app’ was being used in place of ‘webapp’ there, which is the general target audience for this feature.

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