Comment on U.S. School Monitoring Software Sacrifices Student Privacy for Unproven Promises of Safety, Digital Rights Says

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• drwho@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  That’s pretty much what it’s for.

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• TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Don’t put personal shit on work devices. This is pretty basic.

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  • PotentiallyApricots@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Kids going to school cannot reasonably be expected to have the knowledge, forethought, or ability to protect themselves from privacy violations. They lack the rights, info and social power to meaningfully do anything about this. That’s why it’s exploitative and harmful.

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    • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Sooo schools should just provide devices to kids with no monitoring at all?

      There shouldn’t be an expectation of privacy on school/company provided devices, that isn’t how it works literally anywhere. It’s on the parents to teach their children not to use the device for personal reasons.

      Ideally the school machines should be limited to only allowing coursework and limited messaging between classmates and teachers, it’s a tool not a toy.

      Idk I just can’t get upset about this. Kids and privacy is kind of a tough one to begin with, I personally think kids shouldn’t have unregulated access to communication devices at all until like 14-15, maybe.

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      • Vodulas@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yes. There are tons of enterprise tools to lock devices to certain activities. Surveillance is not necessary and will be used to violate privacy, and I am not talking about just on device communication. Remember when companies were caught using their employees cameras without any indication on the device? The suspected benefits of surveillance is not worth the potential harm.

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      • PotentiallyApricots@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        An issue here for me is that the kids can’t op out. Their guardians aren’t the ones checking up on their digital behavior, it’s an ai system owned by a company on a device they are forced or heavily pressured to use by a school district. That’s just too much of a power imbalance for an informed decision to my mind, even if the user in question were an adult. Kids are even more vulnerable. I do not think it is a binary option between no supervision and complete surveillance. We have to find ways to address potential issues that uphold the humanity of all the humans involved. This seems to me like a bad but also very ineffective way to meet either goal.

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  • t3rmit3@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    School is not work. Work is compensated. Work is voluntary. School is neither.

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  • drwho@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Not all of these kids have any other computer.

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