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arken@lemmy.world 2 months agoEr, that’s what I am saying however is that you can observe and measure consciousness.
Going with any definition of consciousness relevant to this discussion, say phenomenality and/or awareness, no.
I am not sure why it’s hard to accept that some living things may not be conscious. Viruses propagate “mindlessly”, they’re neither living nor conscious.
That’s not really the point - I don’t claim to know what entities possess consciousness. The point is that you don’t either.
I also don’t understand why you think emergent properties are a hypothesis. Emergent properties of biological processes are fact
Obviously I’m talking about Emergentism as it relates to consciousness, and the idea that consciousness is an emergent property is not a fact, no. And there are perfectly valid reasons - for example, the “explanatory gap” - why someone might find it unsatisfactory.
nifty@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Okay, I hope you go forth and research these ideas
arken@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I have done plenty of research, thank you. Of course even more research never hurts.
nifty@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I am interested in knowing if I am wrong, would be cool see published results which can prove any of these ideas