Expecting a decent product for the price you paid == hating. What a 2024 moment.
Comment on Star Wars: Outlaws being a "AAAA Game" for 3 minutes
Soup@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
I’d guarantee that everyone here’s favorite game of all time had bugs on launch.
But don’t let this get in the way of a good old fashioned pitchfork parade. Keep on hating.
mods_mum@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Soup@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
That’s not at all what I said. And the fact that you need to create this straw man in order to have a response lends to the fact that you’re the type of person that will take a video on YouTube to be an example of what is happening to everyone that has played it.
Stay mad, bro.
mods_mum@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Well, I’d rather be mad about being scammed then bend over for a shitty studio, but this is a safe space mate. No one’s kink shaming here.
Soup@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
Well, I guess you dodged that bullet, eh… mate? But know there are tons of people playing it that haven’t and probably won’t experience the issues in your cute little hate video. I hope that doesn’t upset you too much.
WereCat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Indeed there are plenty of games with way more bugs than this one but bugs themselves are not the issue.
Skyrim had and still has many bugs but despite all that it’s a good game.
This game will remain bad even if you’ll fix all bugs.
Soup@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
No game was made to appeal to every player. I haven’t gotten it yet- so I’m reserving judgement.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I do think games typically launched with fewer bugs before it was common to be able to patch games over the internet
Soup@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
Oh I’m sure that’s the case as well. Totally agree, however- people really need to relax on this shit. No Man’s Sky and CP2077 both serve as perfect examples that day one isn’t a finished product.
The people need to lighten up.
Goudewup@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
The day a full price is asked is the day a finished project should be expected.
Soup@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
Okay.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
These are bad examples for two reasons:
- Unless a game is sold as “pre-order for open beta access” or the more modern equivalent “early access”, I still expect games to be “complete” in terms of core content on release date. Bug fixes and quality of life changes later are ok, (but it would be nice not to need them) and games that never stop being updated are an exception (e.g. Minecraft).
- Neither of those games was really “incomplete” on launch in terms of core features. Cyberpunk had some bad bugs, but the core of its controversy was poor performance on older consoles, which (as I understand it) was never really fixed. No Man’s Sky was missing multiplayer on launch, but the core of its controversy was people didn’t like the core gameplay loop and also didn’t like the randomly generated terrain and creatures. NMS has received a lot of content since then, but it hasn’t really changed its core gameplay loop and has only slightly improved the quality of random generation.
Soup@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
And what about Outlaws is incomplete exactly?
yamanii@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I lighten up on small teams, I gave Anno mutationem a pass because it’s an indie game by a small team when they kept patching it all the time for 3 months, game was cheap too.
I won’t lighten up on 70 dollars trainwrecks with no ambition.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
sooo, don’t buy games at launch?
Also, plenty of AAA games never see their bugs get patched. I got stuck in a room in Dead Space for about 20 minutes trying to figure out the puzzle when it was just the boss that failed to load. This was a documented bug that was reported five years earlier.
Also, this isn’t what a pitchfork parade looks like. It’s not nearly that important.
Soup@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
I didn’t say that either. But games have bugs at launch. They get fixed. But judging a game on its day 1 is fucking stupid.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No, it’s fair to judge a game when it becomes available for purchase.
Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I remember when games used to be shipped completed and without bugs that required day one patches or patches at all. Seems that shipping out games that aren’t optimized or ready to ship is so normal now that you say something like “everyone’s favorite game had bugs on launch”.
Soup@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
Because that’s where we are now. The internet made it easy to patch shit. This is how it is. We’re not going back to how it was because we’ve moved on from that. It sucks, but that’s how it is.
We can cry about how it used to be- k won’t it can’t be that way again , or we can accept that things are different now and move on.
Want things the way they were? You’re you got have to remove the internet- yep…. The same internet you use to download that game and skip going to the brick-and-mortar is the same intern responsible for making patching incomplete games a thing.
Good luck.