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commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

By your logic, dog meat farms are fine – amoral. The cruelty does not matter because it is inherent.

not quite but very close. the suffering is not cruelty because it is inherent, and suffering alone does not change the morality.

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naught@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
To willingly inflict unnecessary suffering on sentient beings is cruelty. This is a semantic argument that ignores reality

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- commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  This is a semantic argument that ignores reality
  
  no, it’s not. but this is a thought terminating cliche
  
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  - naught@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You are literally arguing the definition of the word “cruelty” rather than dealing with the substance. I appreciate the engagement, but this is where I’ll stop. I hope you consider the conflicts in your worldview and work toward improving the world for yourself and the beings that inhabit it.
    
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    commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    I hope you consider the conflicts in your worldview and work toward improving the world for yourself and the beings that inhabit it.
    
    YOU, TOO
    
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    commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    if cruelty is what is wrong, we must agree on a definition.
    
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- commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  what is the bar for necessity? you are introducing an ambiguity here.
  
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  - naught@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You do not need meat to survive
    
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    commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    you don’t know what I need
    
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    commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    why should survival be the bar?
    
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