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SSJMarx@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Hexbear’s largest and most site-threatening drama was over its vegan comm (and I think the mods of Reddit’s vegancirclejerk?). It ended with the site requiring content warnings on all pictures of meat.
But you know what? They were right. Vegans are basically right about everything, and the reason me and my fellow omnis get our jimmies so rustled by them is because we fucking know they’re right.
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
The part that bothers me is that the most toxic members of the community tend to be boosted. Although I can agree that vegans are right about most things, I would argue that there’s lots of things vegans are wrong about, like arguing that cultivated meat is inviable/immoral/etc. Maybe what bothers you most is that you view your own lifestyle as immoral, but not everyone agrees with you, and you shouldn’t presume to speak for everyone.
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Speaking from experience, I really resented all the “toxic vegans” I experienced while I was becoming vegan, but looking back I’m thankful for them. The reason they seemed so toxic was because they kept highlighting my own moral inconsistencies. This raises cognitive dissonance which feels like an attack. It’s an unpleasant experience.
Of course there were also a lot of “good vegans” I’m thankful of as well who would patiently answer any of my questions, and this is the approach I try and take myself (although sometimes I don’t succeed, I’m sure).
Beaver@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
The “toxic members” are probably the most outspoken ones just like how the feminists are viewed as extremists.
Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
No; saying anyone who eats meat loves torturing animals and berating people who want to reduce meat in their diet for not doing enough isn’t helpful.
Beaver@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
People need to be held accountable for actions that cause others harm.