Comment on Those poor plants
BlackDragon@slrpnk.net 2 weeks agoBut then you’re still causing plants pain by farming and eating them. Isn’t that argument no different than saying if you believe that harming animals causes them pain, you should be in favor of eating the ones that are hunted because farming them causes more pain?
If you insist on animal abuse then you should do it through hunting rather than factory farming precisely because of the diminished amount of suffering caused. But it’s still more suffering than would be caused by just eating plants so I’m not sure I understand your point
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m talking about an argument for veganism though. If you are saying that it’s acceptable for people to eat hunted meat, you’re not saying they should be vegans. And you’re encouraging a massive increase in hunting.
BlackDragon@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
What part of my reference to it as animal abuse sounds like an endorsement of the practice? I’m not sure about you, but personally I consider animal abuse to be unacceptable.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Okay, then I think you’re completely missing my point, which is that arguing that causing less pain is good is a bad argument for veganism. Causing no pain would be the ethical argument, wouldn’t it? Causing less pain would still be unethical, right?
It’s sort of like trying to convince someone committing genocide they should stop by telling them they should slow down.
flerp@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
It’s not sort of like that though because the practicality of the matter is that humans have to eat to survive but they don’t have to genocide to survive. Reducing suffering as much as possible being the goal rather than eliminating it completely is not a new concept in philosophy considering eliminating suffering completely is impossible.