Comment on Why I Haven't Seen Any Trump Supporters In Fediverse (Lemmy and Mastodon)?

• Schmoo@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Lemmy is an inherently libertarian platform

  This is an interesting perception, because if you mean American libertarianism then this doesn’t really make sense. Lemmy’s creators are communist and intended it to be anti-corporate. It is designed in a decentralized manner specifically to avoid situations where companies can own and profit from it.

  The kinds of platforms I would see as being libertarian (in the American sense) are the diaspora of privately owned social media companies.

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  • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    American libertarian just means embarrassed Republican nowadays.

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  • Nemo@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Not all libertarian-leaning people are on board with corporatism; IMO freedom is for people, not businesses.

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    • Schmoo@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I respect it but if you’re American and trying to take the word back, I’m afraid you’re a little too late. It’s a political party now and they’re all-in on corporatism.

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      • Nemo@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m sure even non-Ameticans can tell the difference between an uppercase and lowercase letter L.

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      • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Almost no one pays attention to the big-L Libertarian party. I think these days the word is associated more with Silicon Valley techno-libertarians.

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  • GrammarPolice@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The idea of federation isn’t communist

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    • Schmoo@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The idea of preventing private ownership and rent-seeking of communication platforms is.

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• Not_mikey@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If it’s libertarian it’s libertarian socialist. There’s no property or capital on here, posts get boosted by collective voting, not based off your following or account. There’s not even an idea of karma, your account means basically nothing here. A capitalist libertarian social media would be something like nostr or what bluesky is claiming it’ll eventually do where you completely own your account and your following and you can use that social capital as you wish.

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• Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think this is an example of where the left-right axis isn’t the most adequate way of viewing things. The Fediverse in general is anti-authoritarian. You can be all the way from a far-left anarchist to a far-right anarcho-capitalist and still be anti-authoritarian, just like both tankies and nazis are authoritarian.

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• Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Lemmy is an inherently libertarian platform even when its users aren’t

  The devs are Communists and created Lemmy along Communist lines and principles. Libertarians can also agree with Lemmy’s structure though.

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• Nemo@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  My experience as well. Though I avoid political munis these days.

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• LemurEyes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  As a libertarian liberal, what communities would you recommend? I’m sad there’s not a more active free speech community on this platform. The reddit one is such a gross conservative circle jerk rn.

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  • AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I used to call myself a “left libertarian” but to be frank, after learning more I’ve found that “anarchist” fits far better. And there’s a lot of interesting content out there that I enjoy. I’m not sure who all .world has defederated, but the solar punk instance is always great, our mods are great (Midwest social), some people may find them abrasive, but those are people who maybe don’t understand that when you play in someone else’s home, you play by their rules.

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  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t have anything to suggest on Lemmy. There’s so little activity that I participate in every community where I see an interesting post, except for those communities which are specifically for people with some particular set of beliefs which I don’t share.

    If you’re looking beyond Lemmy, there are are the comment sections of the SlateStarCodex/AstralCodexTen blog and the blogs it links to as well as some associated forums and subreddits. You’ll find plenty of liberal libertarians and the comments tend to be polite and high-effort, but keep in mind that a dedication to free speech means that people with opinions that can’t be discussed elsewhere participate too. It’s a bit much for me sometimes.

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