Comment on When shitposting becomes constiposting

• BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s just public, unlike reddit. There have been countless controversies over poor moderation on reddit. On lemmy everyone can see when someone is banned for bullshit reasons and call it out. Don’t mistake awareness for frequency

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  • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Excellent point. On reddit you’re just shadowbanned with no explanation.

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• PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Okay but you can always make your own shitposting community on your own instance with your own rules if you feel so strongly against the rules. That option simply was not available on R*ddit. The point of Lemmy isn’t that no one abuses their mod and admin powers ever, but that the system is set up so that you can just go to another Lemmy server, which simply was not available on R*ddit if you pissed off the site admins.

  Although I personally find Lemmy users nicer and moderation better on average, their character is not the point. It is merely the result of an imperfect but better system than R*ddit.

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  • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The inevitable centralization of the fediverse means starting your own instance is not the cure all people pretend it is, even discounting the obvious technical difficulties of hosting one.

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  • Klear@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Okay but you can always make your own shitposting community on your own instance with your own rules if you feel so strongly against the rules. That option simply was not available on R*ddit.

    That happened on reddit all the time, minus the instance part. Remember /r/freefolk?

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    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That happened on reddit all the time, minus the instance part. Remember /r/freefolk?

      The “instance part” is absolutely huge. If I wanted to, I could go start a /c/lemmyshitpost on SDF Lemmy [1] with a completely new set of rules [2], particularly a set of rules that possibly would violate Lemmy.world’s TOS or possibly even the law in Lemmy.world’s jurisdiction, but not SDF’s or their jurisdiction’s laws.

      It’s not a big deal for the average user until the day you run afoul of the server admins.

      [1] As of writing this, SDF does not have a /c/lemmyshitpost.

      [2] I’m not interested in doing that lol, this is just a hypothetical. I’m annoyed at this most recent decision but nowhere near ready to leave over it.

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      • ValenThyme@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        yeah but when people go to add communities they ignore the little one with 3 followers when there’s a comm with the same name that has 3000.

        Is like saying oh you don’t like your local librarians? you’re free to make your own library!

        Okay well being free to do something doesn’t magically make it a real option. The truth is whatever comm gets the biggest following first is the one everyone goes to. Are there even any exceptions to that that aren’t entire communities agreeing to move together off instances?

        For literally the entire time I have been on lemmy I have heard laments about the centralization of comms on lemmy.world and seen attempts to mitigate it but every pie chart just shows lemmy.world with more of the pie because growing a comm on small servers isn’t simple!

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• Clent@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Agreed. I think moderating comments needs to be banished. The community can self-moderate with voting.

  Banning users is pointless. Accounts can be created very easily. With decentralized one doesn’t even need to go to the lengths one does with Reddit.

  Moderating should be reserved for keeping a sub’s posts relevant to the group’s purpose and nothing else.

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  • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think moderating comments needs to be banished.

    Nah because then someone could just post (for example) medical gore in a “safe space” and it’ll just get downvoted but not removed.

    It wasn’t gore, but do you remember the ThuleanPerspective (I think?) trolls from a little while back, spamming that racist photoshopped Simpsons comic by commenting it on literally everything? That effort was neutralized in the short term by deleting those comments on the spot, and then the users who posted them.

    It is absolutely a useful tool, but like most useful tools it can be abused.

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