Comment on 4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!)
alyaza@beehaw.org 1 month agothere’s certainly other things we can do to tackle racism, but tackling ground level stuff like inherently painting black as bad and/or negative is part of that.
i simply do not think that this is racist unless you make it (at which point i would argue yet again the problem is internalized, not with the phrasing used), and i think this is reflected in how the overwhelming majority of people who care about this are white people who want to feel good about themselves without doing anything that would actually tackle racism at the source or challenge their whiteness and how they might benefit from it. to me “whitelist/blacklist” is extremely representative of contemporary slacktivism–stuff that feels good but is functionally a red herring toward material progress on these issues. (notice, for instance, how much time we’re wasting on even debating if this is valuable when we could be doing anything else)
Iapar@feddit.org 1 month ago
If it is not that important to you but to someone else to feel better, it would be in the spirit of the instance to change the terminology, wouldn’t it?
lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 month ago
You’re exemplifying OP’s #1 and #2: a black person, who’s in a position to know what people will/won’t take offence with (since she’s a mod), is using the terms whitelist/blacklist, and telling you “it’s fine”.
But you’re still trying to argue it on hypothetical grounds? Shut up and listen to her dammit.
Iapar@feddit.org 1 month ago
She must be a god not a mod to know what all people take offence with, so what kind of argument is that supposed to be?
And I am allowed to express my opinion, with I did in a civilized manner. So you can take your “Shut up and listen to her dammit.”, shove it up your ass and fuck off.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 month ago
Nobody here is omniscient nor implied to, it’s just that she’s in a considerably better position to know what should be offensive than either of us, as both part of the relevant community (black people) and someone dealing with people all the time.
I could turn your argument against you and say that, just like you feel entitled to express your “excuuuse me black people, you might be ignorant on what other black people should feel offended with, so let me drag down this discussion with this cacophony of hypotheticals”, I’m also allowed to express my own.
I won’t though - go read the text in the OP and you’ll notice why I chose those specific words, even if they sound rude.