Comment on 4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!)

• alyaza@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  there are difficulties but bluntly: these are only “unworkable” if you’re dismissive (as your comment here is) and/or make absolutely no effort to make them work. you are largely vindicating the need for such a list.

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  • Beacon@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Again, total nonsense. I'll repeat exactly what i said in one of the comments you deleted, and YOU can tell me why it's wrong. On lemmy there's no way to know what race/gender/sexuality a person is. So, you tell me, how is any of this stuff applicable here? If OP was just talking about mastodon, then their title is completely wrong.

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    • alyaza@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      to be clear, your argument here is:

      1. you can’t know the race, sex, gender identity, or other immutable characteristic of every person who posts on Lemmy or another service, so
      2. you can’t listen to those voices when they identify themselves or clearly mark themselves as such; you can’t pre-emptively think about the nature of what you post and whether it’s harmful to such groups; you can’t report or check harmful behavior from others against those groups; and you can’t support initiatives led by these groups? – these are just entirely non-applicable in this space?

      i feel like if you can’t see how obviously ridiculous and farcical this argument is, you’re again the person who vindicates the need for a list like this–however objectionable you find it.

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      • Beacon@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        1. My argument is you can't tell the demographic identity of ANY person who posts on lemmy. Even when they supposedly self-identify.

        2. Again, what you're saying here is radically different than what OP is saying in the 4 points they posted. There was nothing limiting it to "on discussions about being black".

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      • Morcyphr@lemmy.one ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Show me where they say they “…can’t listen to those voices…”. Right, they didn’t say that.

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• TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Other commenters provided feedback that was given in good faith. Those replies were left up. I hope you can see why we might consider jumping straight to comparing the poster to Hitler when you disagree with their well intentioned post about how to better be anti-racist on Fediverse communities to be a bit problematic.

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