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That’s actually kind of shocking to see that indie games have surpassed AAA in revenue. I expected that was kind of inevitable given how uninspired and criticized modern AAA stuff is. But to actually see it already happened is cool.

It’s been shocking to see the amount of financial industry money and control at some of the bigger studio, and the way they talk about the future of the industry is disturbing. Although, if the money isn’t rolling in, or there are other parts of the market making more money, it makes me hopeful that finance will loosen it’s grip on these companies and let them make good projects rather than chasing arbitrary metrics.

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Paradachshund@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It’s worth noting that indie is a pretty wide tent. Some studios are technically indie but they’re working with practically AAA budgets.

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- megopie@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I suppose in my mind AAA refers more to certain group of publishers and parent companies. A certain way of structuring companies and doing business. As supposed to a metric of the budget needed for a game.
  
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  - Paradachshund@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I think most do and it’s a good way to look at it. There are definitely companies out there that people don’t think of as indie that are technically independent, so I just wanted to mention it. It’s still very cool to hear they’ve surpassed triple a!
    
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ConstableJelly@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I have started to notice that a lot, if not the majority, of games that make the biggest social splashes in the past couple years are smaller games - with exceptions for titles like Baldur’s Gate 3 and Alan Wake 2 which are their own labors of love on a AAA scale. Animal Well, Balatro, Dredge, Vampire Survivors, Talos Principle 2, Hi-Fi Rush…these are the games I tend to hear about the most.

The attention that a lot of AAA games get seems shallow and short-lived lately.

One of the things that’s excited me most recently is seeing new and inventive ways to use graphics and fidelity besides photorealism. Games like Gris and The Artful Escape are probably the most stunningly beautiful games I’ve ever played.

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- barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’m not sure if you could call Talos Principle indie. Croteam is an ancient company (of Serious Sam fame), they sold out to their publisher some years ago (Developer Digital). Wikipedia says 42 people, that’s about the same ballpark as Wube (Factorio), way smaller than Coffee Stain (123), which yes vibes heavily indie (Goat Simulator!) but is part of Embracer Group.
  
  If you look at Developer Digital and Embracer group they’re not really that small – certainly not smaller than CDProject Red, which is very much throwing AAA money at their projects and definitely had their own big business culture fuckups. They’re simply more distributed, instead of orchestrating or two big projects they have multiple studios working largely independently on small to mid-sized projects. Talos and Satisfactory are AA scale.
  
  Is Wube indie? Well, at least at the start they were, growing with Factorio’s early access. Still independent, as far as I know. Budget-wise they’re certainly not operating on a shoestring, though… you also have to take into account that they’re taking their sweet time for everything. Also AA.
  
  A would be stuff like Celeste. That’s a broad category, I wouldn’t really call anything B unless you don’t have separate coder, writer, sfx/msx and gfx. Maybe toss the writer but anything under that and you’re smaller than minimum demo group size.
  
  All this is to say: Can we please stop dividing the industry into “AAA” and “Indie”. CD Project Red is independent. They’re doing AAA. One is budget, the other is whether the studio has a corporate overlord lording over multiple studios. Game quality is a third measure. System requirements yet another: Factorio has no issues melting your CPU even though it’s highly optimised, then you have B-budget projects which melt your box because the dev has never heard of polycount and a background prop toothbrush has 400 quads… per bristle.
  
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onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
AAA really should mean game quality, not production costs. I don’t care how much money is spent on a game, if it’s bad, it’s bad.

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