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Madison420@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Goddamnit southerns, you are Yankees. The only southerners that weren’t Yankees were confederates who can also be called treasonous traitors.
Essentially, if you’re not a Yankee you’re a goddamn traitor.
Machinist@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Yes and no.
I’m country as a pinto bean sandwich. Yankees were people that lived in the north and talked different.
I used to have a lot of pride in my people. We are tough and proud. Able to endure heat that most people don’t understand. Stretch a penny and squeeze a dime, fix a truck with bailing wire, JB weld and a coke can. Kind to others, stop on the road and help someone broke down.
Collard greens, corn bread, catfish, and a mess of green beans. There’s bacon fat in the beans and they’ve been boiled down.
Black folks around, you say Ma’am and Sir to make sure they know you respect them. We’re all people.
I started reading, left home, and lived near a big city for 20 years.
I come from profound ignorance. There’s a good naturedness that seems to have left my people.
OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I think he’s saying that “southerners call northerners Yankees, but they don’t know that EVERYONE in the US is a Yankee once the confederacy lost, because not a single confederate soldier remained, reclaiming those states as Yankee territory and any citizen therein is a Yankee. Anyone who disagrees doesn’t remember the lesson Ol’ Sherman taught em”
OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Also, for what it’s worth, my family was from the south. My reunions and funerals and weddings all take place somewhere in a holler with 1 Walmart about 40 minutes down the mountain.
My uncle once said, and my mother agreed, in relation to gay men “I wish they’d put em all on an island somewhere, they’d be happier that way”.
But I wasn’t lucky enough to know my grandpa as a man of wisdom. He’d said enough stupid shit, or abided it in his home when his children begged for '“Barack Houssein O’bummer’s” birth certificate. He had a dog named Blackie, that I called Blackie because I wouldn’t dare say it’s real name if someone asked.
What was good in them did all truly disappear in front of me day by day from that point. Hell, I actually believed the ‘states rights’ reason for the civil war until I was at least 14 or so. Crazy what stupid can breed
keystonerose@lemmy.nz 4 months ago
I’m not from the US but just wanted to say that I found your descriptions in this thread very evocative. Thanks for the perspective on a place in time that I otherwise hadn’t seen
Madison420@lemmy.world 4 months ago
100% wrong, Yankee has a meaning and has only ever been a north south during and after the civil war, you know when we killed a bunch of racist ducks and burned their cities to the ground.
If you see yourself as anything but a Yankee I’m going to call you a traitor and a closet feddy, it is what it is no matter how many friendly southern afforisms you offer.
Machinist@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Wait. I’m a traitor?
Like, I have an entire culture that I’m grieving. Warts and all. Grew up in this. I talk different, look different, eat different from like the rest of the USA. I’m pretty much a walking talking stereotype of a redneck.
What the fuck is up with you that you think that’s a reasonable thing to say? Would Mister Rogers like the person you’re being?
nik9000@programming.dev 4 months ago
I’m with you. Words change.
There are still good southerners. But it’s hard sometimes. I still live here but I’m weary for my kids. It’s fine for now.
I wish you peace with your family. Whatever that means.
Madison420@lemmy.world 4 months ago
If you say you aren’t a Yankee you’re either a traitor or long to be one. We fought a war over that shit and those southern “not Yankees” lost.
Neat, so you’re American and you do stereotypical shit and have a slightly different culture and dialect. You know what every other country on the planet would say a Yankee is? The stereotype of the person you claim to be, ie an American.
Mr.Rodgers was against racism so I’m pretty sure he’s ok with not supporting the racist legacy of the South.