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• Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  The Tuskegee experiment is not the same as Flat Earth. Conspiracy theories are not a homogeneous and neither are conspiracy theorists.

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  • frankPodmore@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The Tuskegee Experiment was not a conspiracy theory. So, in that sense you’re right.

    Conspiracy theories and theorists are homogenous: the flawed thinking is inherent to the concept. Conspiracy theories are untrue by definition, and nothing to do with real conspiracies.

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Fuck off. The Tuskegee Experiment was a conspiracy. A group of people secretly performed illegal medical experiments on the African American population.

      Conspiracy theories and theorists are homogenous.

      Only within each conspiracy. Oliver Stone believes the JFK conspiracy theory but I doubt he believes the elite are literallypolo lizard people.

      the flawed thinking is inherent to the concept

      Incorrect. An illegal agreement between two or more parties has no connection to how logical the process is of whoever is suspicious.

      Conspiracy theories are untrue by definition,

      Incorrect. They are unproven by definition. They may be true or false.

      and nothing to do with real conspiracies.

      Real (I assume you mean proven) conspiracies start off as theories.

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      • frankPodmore@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Real (I assume you mean proven) conspiracies start off as theories.

        No, they don’t. Conspiracy theories are not ‘theories about conspiracies’. You are both misusing the term ‘conspiracy theory’ and wrongly describing the Tuskegee experiment as a conspiracy, which it never was. One of the people who originally called it out did so after reading about it in a published scientific paper! The pereptrators of that ‘experiment’ lied to the participants, but they were not otherwise secretive, otherwise they wouldn’t have been writing and publishing papers about it.

        Fuck off

        I’m not going to discuss this further with someone who cannot do so civilly.

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