They can and they do. Companies want you to think they're just dust in the wind being blown one way or another by the fickle winds of fate, but the fact is they're fully capable of doing whatever they want, and they want to pretend they need diversity because it helps prevent workers from organizing because they're too busy fighting each other.
At the most charitable, there's laws saying they can't actively discriminate, which is different from saying "thou shalt have a diverse workforce". You just go "We didn't discriminate based on a protected class, we reviewed everyone and decided that this person wasn't qualified for the job because of [insert bullshit reason X]."
But even if it is, so what? There's a lot of laws. There's minimum wage laws and labor standards laws, and big companies flout that all the time. I should know -- I paid for college by working a job in a major oil company that violated every labor law there is. And they got away with it because there were no jobs and your choices were to grin and bear it or remain unemployed.
One time I was hired by what was at the time the largest company in the industry it was in, and they really wanted me and nobody else so the job requirements were tailored to basically mirror my unique resume. Is some labor cop gonna come in and tell them they didn't need the perfectly legitimate looking requirements on the job ad? You could have someone else with objectively better qualifications, but they don't have the exact things I have so I'm a better fit for the job. There's lots of ways around inconvenient rules.
You just go “We didn’t discriminate based on a protected class, we reviewed everyone and decided that this person wasn’t qualified for the job because of [insert bullshit reason X].”
sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 2 years ago
They can and they do. Companies want you to think they're just dust in the wind being blown one way or another by the fickle winds of fate, but the fact is they're fully capable of doing whatever they want, and they want to pretend they need diversity because it helps prevent workers from organizing because they're too busy fighting each other.
mayonesa@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
Not correct. It's written into law that they must do it or risk lawsuits and seizure of their business.
masterofballs@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
Y'all still talking about China? They regularly say on job sites you must be a hot women no older than 26.
They have lots of rules they will never enforce.
mayonesa@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
I thought we had moved to a general context. My comments are about US and Western law.
sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 2 years ago
At the most charitable, there's laws saying they can't actively discriminate, which is different from saying "thou shalt have a diverse workforce". You just go "We didn't discriminate based on a protected class, we reviewed everyone and decided that this person wasn't qualified for the job because of [insert bullshit reason X]."
But even if it is, so what? There's a lot of laws. There's minimum wage laws and labor standards laws, and big companies flout that all the time. I should know -- I paid for college by working a job in a major oil company that violated every labor law there is. And they got away with it because there were no jobs and your choices were to grin and bear it or remain unemployed.
One time I was hired by what was at the time the largest company in the industry it was in, and they really wanted me and nobody else so the job requirements were tailored to basically mirror my unique resume. Is some labor cop gonna come in and tell them they didn't need the perfectly legitimate looking requirements on the job ad? You could have someone else with objectively better qualifications, but they don't have the exact things I have so I'm a better fit for the job. There's lots of ways around inconvenient rules.
mayonesa@wolfballs.com 2 years ago
https://legaldictionary.net/disparate-impact/