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• wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  history.com/…/how-the-nazis-were-inspired-by-jim-…

  Jim Crow was created by democrats.

  Suggested reading.

  www.barnesandnoble.com/w/…/1125950908

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  • barsquid@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think I’ll take the word of historians over convicted fraud and “2000 Mules” propagandist Dinesh D’Souza.

    (Suggested reading: politifact.com/…/did-nazi-platform-echo-democrati…)

    Jim Crow was created by regressives. These were previously mostly Dem but after the deliberate Southern Strategy are mostly Repub.

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    • Zombiepirate@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’ll never get him to agree, because his entire worldview relies not on facts but on controlling the conversation.

      It’s immaterial to him if he is right or not.

      Reactionaries are inherently anti-intellectual, because it allows dim dipshits to hold court and have their ideas treated by their fellow regressive peers as the equivalent of that of people who actually know what they’re talking about.

      It’s so much easier to “know” things when you can make up whatever bullshit you want or can cite another boot-licker who is also using motivated reasoning and magical thinking.

      Do you think he cares that Republicans tried to have a Fascist coup before?

      Or that Regan was flooding inner cities with cocaine?

      Or that the Civil Rights Act was signed into law by a Democrat?

      He doesn’t give a fuck, because all he cares about is projecting the appearance of being correct. The actual facts are irrelevant.

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      • TheLowestStone@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The sooner rational people stop bothering to have civil conversations with the delusional lunatics running this community the better. Just let the 4 idiots and 1 Russian troll get bored of talking to eachother and they’ll eventually leave the platform.

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      • barsquid@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        100% agree, thinking I’ll deprogram a brainwashing victim with some internet comments would be delusional.

        I just don’t want to see anyone sourcing Dinesh as suggested reading without pushback. I don’t want a low information individual to get sucked in by far-right propaganda.

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    • wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      hese were previously mostly Dem but after the deliberate Southern Strategy are mostly Repub. Are? Jim Crow was removed a long time ago and Republicans voted for it 80% vs 61% for the Democrats.

      Republicans have always been about equality.

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964

      Jim Crow was just Democratic politics and is still their politics.

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      • barsquid@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Southern Strategy.

        Jim Crow was by regressives. The same regressives opposed civil rights. And those same regressives today are in a cult formed around Donald.

        Regressives today are still opposed to the civil rights movement.

        Lincoln would be appalled to find that the Republicans of today are in fact the regressives he had to fight a war against.

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  • Zombiepirate@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And Lincoln hated conservatives.

    It’s hilarious that you want me to read “the truth” by a convicted fraudster and conspiracy theorist.

    You’re beyond parody.

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    • wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Since Lincoln was a conservative. I’d love to see where you get that idea. He hated democrats.

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      • Zombiepirate@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But you say you are conservative—eminently conservative—while we are revolutionary, destructive, or something of the sort. What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried? We stick to, contend for, the identical old policy on the point in controversy which was adopted by “our fathers who framed the Government under which we live”; while you with one accord reject, and scout, and spit upon that old policy, and insist upon substituting something new. True, you disagree among yourselves as to what that substitute shall be. You are divided on new propositions and plans, but you are unanimous in rejecting and denouncing the old policy of the fathers. Some of you are for reviving the foreign slave trade; some for a Congressional Slave-Code for the Territories; some for Congress forbidding the Territories to prohibit Slavery within their limits; some for maintaining Slavery in the Territories through the judiciary; some for the “gur-reat pur-rinciple” that “if one man would enslave another, no third man should object”, fantastically called “Popular Sovereignty”; but never a man among you is in favor of federal prohibition of slavery in federal territories, according to the practice of “our fathers who framed the Government under which we live”. Not one of all your various plans can show a precedent or an advocate in the century within which our Government originated. Consider, then, whether your claim of conservatism for yourselves, and your charge of destructiveness against us, are based on the most clear and stable foundations.

        Human action can be modified to some extent, but human nature cannot be changed. There is a judgment and a feeling against slavery in this nation, which cast at least a million and a half of votes. You cannot destroy that judgment and feeling—that sentiment—by breaking up the political organization which rallies around it. You can scarcely scatter and disperse an army which has been formed into order in the face of your heaviest fire; but if you could, how much would you gain by forcing the sentiment which created it out of the peaceful channel of the ballot-box, into some other channel?

        Lincoln at Cooper Union

        Read a goddamn book

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