i think anyone should be allowed to choose whether they want to work, and if they choose not to, they should at a minimum be provided housing, food, running potable water and clothing.
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FelixCress@lemmy.world 3 months agoIf you can work and you choose to live from benefits, you are a leech.
problematicPanther@lemmy.world 3 months ago
FelixCress@lemmy.world 3 months ago
On what basis? Are you asking me to support financially someone fully capable of working? Fuck that, I have my own children to support. If he can work, he should work.
Unless you are talking about universal basic income - but this is completely different idea to benefits and should be paid instead of all the other state payouts, including state pension. I am not opposed to that, that’s just basic wealth sharing.
problematicPanther@lemmy.world 3 months ago
i’m not asking you to do anything, unless of course you’re a member of the super wealthy who don’t pay a fair share in taxes. The burden should be on the wealthiest individuals who profit off our backs and keep us in this perpetual capitalist hell.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
The good news is that Capitalism cannot be perpetual, so the Hellscape will end at somepoint.
FelixCress@lemmy.world 3 months ago
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the wealthy should pay much, much more than they do. They also should work for their money rather than spending time on golf courses or wanking themselves on twitter.
That does not alleviate the basic duty of every single person, capable of working, to be able to earn his own maintenance.There is plenty of people unable to do so (or temporary unable to do so) and these should be helped.
ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 3 months ago
On what basis?
On the basis that they are alive and if they didn’t get those basic amenities they wouldn’t be anymore. You know, like we do with healthcare in actually civilized countries.
FelixCress@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Oh, but they will be alive. Alive and working like they should.
Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 3 months ago
We had almost full automation for 60 years in factories, where did that money go? There are leeches in society, and OP is not among the relevant ones.
FelixCress@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Two wrongs don’t make it right. The fact that rich people are often leeches does not change the fact that poor people can also be leeches.
ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Brother. This is childish thinking. The exploitation of the rich is killing the planet, literally making it uninhabitable for all things living. One guy living off welfare is not on the same level, not by a long shot.
FelixCress@lemmy.world 3 months ago
What the fuck are you even talking about? Justifying a leech sucking welfare system when he is fully capable of working just because there are other wealthy leeches is like justifying a thief stealing a car, because he didn’t rob a bank.
R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
Billionaires leech millions of times what a poor person leeches, and yet you’re here complaining about the poor person (who has likely already paid more in taxes than they have leeched).
FelixCress@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I am not “complaining” about anything. I am calling leech “a leech” because he is a leech.